[Cdt-l] Montana Wilderness Association accepts bikes on the CDT because the local agency does

[Sly]

longhiker, that's great you're doing trail work this summer, congrats. 
One of eleven crews? Wow! Have a fun time. Don't let the shovel hit you 
in the ass.



On 7/10/2012 5:53 PM, Andrew wrote:
>
> Hey, Sly,
>
> Thanks for some more east coast philosophy.  Guess your CDTS 
> newsletter isn't keeping you informed about what is going on.
>
> I am scheduled to be on a trail crew this summer with VOC in 
> Colorado.  It is one of eleven volunteer crews working to move the 
> trail off of motorized routes between Tunnel Gulch and Winfield.  I've 
> seen a map of the eventual trail and it includes moving the trail away 
> from Tin Cup Pass.
>
> Wouldn't it be better to be part of the solution?
>
> AJ (longhiker)
>
> longhiker.pct at gmail.com
>
> *From:*cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net 
> [mailto:cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net] *On Behalf Of *Sly
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 10, 2012 3:35 PM
> *To:* cdt-l at backcountry.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Cdt-l] Montana Wilderness Association accepts bikes on 
> the CDT because the local agency does
>
> Hey Eric,
>
> Mixed report there.
>
> First you say bikes are a non-issue then you point out the section 
> from Monarch to Marshall Pass where they ARE an issue. However, since 
> that section of trail was "grandfathered in" so to speak, I'll let it 
> go. What's worse than that section is the one up by Tin Cup, with 
> motor bikes and ATV's. OK, that was grandfathered in too. Oh well.
>
> What I don't want to see is the trail in Montana any way similar to 
> those sections in Colorado and others with high speed traffic.  If 
> they want to build new "official" CDT that accepts bikes, oh well 
> again, I'll just try and find an alternate route.
>
> What I prefer is the CDTS approach to a "silent trail" which for the 
> most part means foot traffic only, be it human or horse.
>
> Sly
>
>
> On 7/10/2012 3:28 PM, Eric Whte wrote:
>
>     Having done the entire CDT, bikers are a non issue, they don't
>     often appear in MT where we hike. Try Monarch Pass in CO south for
>     15 or 20 miles on the CDT/CT if you want to rub elbows with the
>     bikers. Mini Mart
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>     *From:*Andrew <longhiker.pct at gmail.com>
>     <mailto:longhiker.pct at gmail.com>
>     *To:* 'CDT-L' <cdt-l at mailman.backcountry.net>
>     <mailto:cdt-l at mailman.backcountry.net>; 'John Brennan'
>     <john at frozenpoodle.com> <mailto:john at frozenpoodle.com>
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, July 10, 2012 2:52 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [Cdt-l] Montana Wilderness Association accepts
>     bikes on the CDT because the local agency does
>
>     Get over it, Cupcake.
>
>     You just attacked the only organization that is currently doing
>     the dirtwork to improve and complete the CDT in Montana.
>
>     Stay home.   The CDT doesn't need people like you.
>
>     AJ (longhiker)
>
>     longhiker.pct at gmail.com <mailto:longhiker.pct at gmail.com>
>
>     On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:44 AM, John Brennan
>     <john at frozenpoodle.com <mailto:john at frozenpoodle.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi CDT List,
>     I just got an email from the Montana Wilderness Association. I was
>     subscribed presumably because CDTA gave them my information. In
>     the newsletter Montana Wilderness Association supports bikes on
>     the CDT. The Montana Wilderness Association representative said
>     that they accept bikes on the CDT because the local agency in
>     charge of the trail accepts them. The local agency accepts bikes
>     because single-track motorized vehicles are allowed.
>
>     With bikes and motorized use, it's not the CDT, IMHO. It's hard to
>     advocate for the CDT. This is one of the ways to do it. If they
>     build trails that will support bikes, then bikes will come*. If
>     bikers contribute to building the trail, they are creating
>     entitlement to the trail that extend beyond the sections they work on.
>
>     You can contact Shannon Freix, CDT Program Manager,
>     atsfreix at wildmontana.org <mailto:atsfreix at wildmontana.org> or
>     (406) 781-0627, if you have an opinion about this.
>
>     Sincerely,
>     The hiker known as Cupcake
>     (Who has really been wanting to get back on the CDT!)
>
>
>     *
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