[pct-l] Article About Stehekin Valley Road
Dave Canty
dc23 at nyu.edu
Wed Jul 25 11:22:03 CDT 2007
This is a month after the fact, but as a regular visitor to Stehekin for the
last 15 years, I think the barriers to rerouting the road from where it was
(now washed out) to the Old Wagon Trail is unfortunate. While I and my
family have no trouble hiking overnight to get to Horseshoe basin and other
destinations once accessible by the old river, many visitors cannot, so a
road would allow them access to some of the most magnificent areas in the
Cascades.
I support environmental causes, and belong to many environmental groups.
While I've not seen any environmental impact analysis, it would seem that
routing the road further away from the river would have less impact than
right next to the river, where erosion and flooding can collapse it, dumping
excessive gravel into the pristine river. And I suspect the environmental
impact of traffic will be minimal; it was when the road went all the way to
Cottonwood (when I traveled it years ago, I'd see a few cars in a day at
most, besides the NPS shuttle), even at the height of summer tourist season.
If a re-routed road equally rough and primitive were put in, traffic would
likely be the same as before.
One other important reason for re-routing: fires. In fact, a fire up the
valley located near the top of Tolo Mountain (between Shady and
Dolly Varden Campgrounds) started July 13. The fire was in a heavily
timbered area on a dangerously steep hillside; with no road, access for
firefighters and equipment was limited. Luckily, a good rainfall calmed it
down and it claimed only 154 acres. But the upper valley is very vulnerable
to fires, so not having road access to the area amounts to rolling
dangerously loaded dice.
Hopefully, a reasonable solution addressing all concerns -- environmental,
greater access, and fire safety -- will somehow prevail over Washington
bureaucracy! -- Dangerous Dave
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1. Article About Stehekin Valley Road (Postholer)
2. Let's drive the pct (JoAnn M. Michael)
3. The Alaska Experiment Casting.... (RJ Lewis)
4. Re: Article About Stehekin Valley Road (Tortoise)
5. Re: Hiking with diabetes (Stephanie Wilson)
6. Keneddy Meadows (ed faubert)
7. Re: Keneddy Meadows (Donna "L-Rod" Saufley)
8. Re: Digitial Camera..thanks! (got milf?)
9. Digitial Camera..thanks! (Deems)
10. vaccum packing (Len Glassner)
11. Re: The Alaska Experiment Casting.... (Junaid Dawud)
12. Re: vaccum packing (Junaid Dawud)
13. OT: lithium batteries in Canon cameras (Tortoise)
14. OT: lithium batteries in Canon cameras (Deems)
15. (no subject) (Paul Magnanti)
16. Digitial Camera..thanks! (Paul Magnanti)
17. Re: Digitial Camera..thanks! (Matt Maxon)
18. Re: Digitial Camera..thanks! (Shauna)
19. Re: Digitial Camera..thanks! (Paul Magnanti)
20. Cameras and things (Junaid Dawud)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:59:10 -0700
From: "Postholer" <public at postholer.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Article About Stehekin Valley Road
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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Mother nature has reclaimed some of her grandeur and of course commerce is
not happy about it.
http://tinyurl.com/2dxru2
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:49:27 -0700
From: "JoAnn M. Michael" <jomike at cot.net>
Subject: [pct-l] Let's drive the pct
To: "Christine Kudija" <cmkudija at earthlink.net>, "John Henzell"
<henzell at gmail.com>, "Smiley" <Wherrick9 at cs.com>, "PCTA"
<info at pcta.org>, "Mike Dawson" <Mdawson340 at aol.com>, "Melouise
Pfeffer" <emel at sonic.net>, "Ian Nelson" <inelson at pcta.org>,
<pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net>, "Liz Bergeron"
<LBergeron at pcta.org>,
"Barbara \"Barb\" Hodgin" <bhodgin at pcta.org>
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You never know what you'll find to read in a doctor's office. While seeing a
physician in Medford, OR, two days ago, my husband picked up a July, 2007,
Motor Trend magazine. Sure enough, starting on page 108 is a 14 page article
entitled "trailblazer - THE COOLEST WAY TO TEST AUDI'S NEW SUPEREXOTIC R8?
FORGING A 3100-MILE PATH ALONG THE PACIFIC CREST TRAIL".
Yep, though I did not read the article word-for-word, apparently these guys
"followed" the pct via roads somewhat paralleling the trail. There is a map
showing both routes - but mislabeled the "Pacific Coast Trail"! They
mention or photographed Campo, Julian, the Tehachapi's, Donner Pass, Mt.
Shasta, Cassel, Lake Britton, Siskiyou Summit, Crater Lake, etc, etc.
I got a kick out of it :)
are we there yet
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:14:07 -0700
From: RJ Lewis <karmagurl at rainierconnect.com>
Subject: [pct-l] The Alaska Experiment Casting....
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Interesting.....tried to write a short note to that guy's email
address....as he invited, and it came back......**Unrouteable Address**
RJ
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:01:16 -0700
From: Tortoise <Tortoise73 at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Article About Stehekin Valley Road
To: Postholer <public at postholer.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Interesting controversy. However like much of modern journalism (or what
passes for journalism), the writer apparently started with his
conclusion and then picked information to support it.
one paragraph is illustrative:
"Parallel to the section of the valley that flooded in 2003, the
critical 21/2 miles from just below Carwash Falls upriver to the
trail junction called Bridge Creek, runs the road's original route
-- safely upslope from the river. In the 1930s, though, that stretch
of the road, called "the old wagon road" or just the "detour road"
by locals, became part of the Pacific Crest Trail and Civilian
Conservation Corps crews replaced it with the flood-prone road along
the river."
It seems very unlikely that back in the 1930's, a road would have been
rerouted so the original road could be used as a trail. More likely some
people thought that a road by the river would be more scenic and
appealing as well as a good project for the CCC. Hope someone can do the
research to determine the truth.
I don't want to go on and on on this, but it does remind me of the
discussions around here by the "old timers" whose memories change to
meet their current desire.
Tortoise
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Postholer wrote:
> Mother nature has reclaimed some of her grandeur and of course commerce is
> not happy about it.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2dxru2
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:56:02 -0500
From: "Stephanie Wilson" <taurodea at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Hiking with diabetes
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Wow, thank you to everyone to answered my question about how to hike
while managing diabetes. The woman that wrote to me to tell me she
would never accomplish her dream of thru-hiking because of diabetes,
will have a lot of GREAT impetus to try and pursue her dream now. I
got so many emails and so much great advice for her. I will put all
this info together and send it to her this weekend. Thank you again!!
Stephanie
PCT 08 hopeful
--
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Service guarantees citizenship!
Oh how I wish this,
to turn back the clock
and do over again.
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:04:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: ed faubert <edfaubert at yahoo.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Keneddy Meadows
To: pct-l- <pct-l-request at mailman.backcountry.net>,
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6/21
I just got home from the Meadows, and well i did not see as many of my old
friends as i had hoped to because they were gone by the 11th....I was able
to feed 3 young men yesterday who said they were counting names in the
regester at the store and they were at 194...and still boxes for new hikers
were coming in. Leona thought there was still 30 more coming.
Monday the 11, i fed 28 hikers and fed an additional 28 the next night...
not a single one of them had been there the night before!
Some of these folks had started at W/Pass, some skipped from A/D. 2 guys
were hurt at Joshea Tree and were up to the campground. One left at Int. 10
and restarted at KMs.
With the low snow year i was not surprized at how many were past KMs. what
i was surprized at was how many were still there on the 19th. Having spent
12 of my last bdays up there i have seen many low snow years where i was the
only person on a few days prior to my bday. Many of them this year
attributed these higher #s of folks still at KMs to too many zero days at
both Donnas and Terrys this year. Well some did complain about the heat most
of them realized it was not as hot overall this year as it normaly can be.
Stopping off at McDonalds at Cajon Pass we saw a higher still coming up
trail. This feller Disel however was only going to Mill Creek Summit to stop
where he started last year. He said he was surprized to see there was still
a fair amount of water on the trail.
Meadow Ed
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:42:44 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
From: "Donna \"L-Rod\" Saufley" <dsaufley at sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Keneddy Meadows
To: ed faubert <edfaubert at yahoo.com>, pct-l-
<pct-l-request at mailman.backcountry.net>, pct-l at backcountry.net
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This year for us was notable because off how short almost everyone's stay at
Hiker Heaven was. We had more people taking near-O's, not zeros, than ever
before. Very few multiple zeros were taken, except for the sick and
injured. So, they weren't held up at our place (can't speak for the
Andersons, though :o). It seemed to me that they were all fired up and
anxious to get to the Sierras, unlike past years where they were dragging
their feet, killing time so they didn't get there too soon.
They are still coming through now, but that's not all that unusual for this
time of year in our experience. However, there are very few boxes and very
little mail left on the shelves. There aren't very many still south of Agua
Dulce. One guy emailed and asked if he could come stay on 7/3.
Hope your birthday was happy, Meadow Ed.
L-Rod
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>From: ed faubert <edfaubert at yahoo.com>
>Sent: Jun 21, 2007 4:04 PM
>To: pct-l- <pct-l-request at mailman.backcountry.net>, pct-l at backcountry.net
>Subject: [pct-l] Keneddy Meadows
>
>6/21
> I just got home from the Meadows, and well i did not see as many of my
old friends as i had hoped to because they were gone by the 11th....I was
able to feed 3 young men yesterday who said they were counting names in the
regester at the store and they were at 194...and still boxes for new hikers
were coming in. Leona thought there was still 30 more coming.
> Monday the 11, i fed 28 hikers and fed an additional 28 the next night...
not a single one of them had been there the night before!
> Some of these folks had started at W/Pass, some skipped from A/D. 2 guys
were hurt at Joshea Tree and were up to the campground. One left at Int. 10
and restarted at KMs.
> With the low snow year i was not surprized at how many were past KMs.
what i was surprized at was how many were still there on the 19th. Having
spent 12 of my last bdays up there i have seen many low snow years where i
was the only person on a few days prior to my bday. Many of them this year
attributed these higher #s of folks still at KMs to too many zero days at
both Donnas and Terrys this year. Well some did complain about the heat most
of them realized it was not as hot overall this year as it normaly can be.
> Stopping off at McDonalds at Cajon Pass we saw a higher still coming up
trail. This feller Disel however was only going to Mill Creek Summit to stop
where he started last year. He said he was surprized to see there was still
a fair amount of water on the trail.
> Meadow Ed
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:28:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: got milf? <gotmiillff at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Digitial Camera..thanks!
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Message-ID: <238170.96309.qm at web57910.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
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I don't like the way it bulges out on one side. I like a flat camera that
will pack well.
Paul Magnanti <pmags at yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, what can I say, I am overwhelmed by the amount of responses I received
(about 2 dozen!).
I decided to go with the Canon A630.
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Canon/canon_a630.asp
http://www.dpreview.com/shop/merchants.asp?id=canon_a640 (a 640 review, but
the 630 is basically the 8mp version of this camera)
http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/canon/powershot_a630_a640-review/
FWIW, I went with this camera because:
-It does use AA batteries
- Has the optical view finder. (Call me old fashioned, but I frame and
compose pics better with the optical view finder. It works better outdoors
than an LCD, too).
This part was by far the most important to me.
-As others pointed out to me, SD cards are dirt cheap now.
The A640 is a 10MP model, but was $100 more and the picture quality was not
that much higher. I was seriously looking at the A710, but the A630 seems to
have many features, is a solid performer, and was less money. I do not take
many low light photographs, so the image stabilization feature is not as
critical, esp. since I use a mini-tripod anyway.
It has many manual features, glowing reviews, and is a good step between a
consumer grade camera and a professional SLR. One review called it a camera
for the "serious amateur". I don't know how serious I am...but I am
definitely amateur in many things I do. :-)
This type of camera (a P&S for someone into photography) is becoming
increasingly scarce. The next step for me would be an SLR...and a big weight
penalty. :( This camera better not break down!
I have used DPReviews in the past, and find it to be an awesome source for
digital camera info.
Thanks again for ALL the suggestions.
Special thanks to Footslogger and Jim Bullard who both steered me in the
Canon direction.
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 17:52:23 -0700
From: "Deems" <losthiker at sisqtel.net>
Subject: [pct-l] Digitial Camera..thanks!
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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Well, what can I say, I am overwhelmed by the amount of responses I received
(about 2 dozen!). I decided to go with the Canon A630.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
These little Canon A# series Powershots also take filters with the correct
adaptor. They are my choice for the trail. Use lithium AA batteries for
lightest weight and best performance. I wanted a A640 for this year, but
I'll carry my Canon Pro1 Powershot again this year. It doesn't use AAs, and
is no longer in production, but the glass is incredible. Good choice Mags!
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 18:04:30 -0700
From: "Len Glassner" <len5742 at gmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] vaccum packing
To: PCT-L <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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I'd like to bag things like cookies, gorp, crackers, etc and make up
supply boxes weeks or months in advance. Anyone used a vacuum sealing
to maintain freshness? Experiences?
Thanks,
Len
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:38:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Junaid Dawud <jdawud at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] The Alaska Experiment Casting....
To: pctl pctl <pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net>
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Its because he didn't add the second "t" to his email
address. should be eellington at ricochettelevsion.com
---------Speshul41
--- RJ Lewis <karmagurl at rainierconnect.com> wrote:
> Interesting.....tried to write a short note to that
> guy's email
> address....as he invited, and it came
> back......**Unrouteable Address**
>
> RJ
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:18:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Junaid Dawud <jdawud at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] vaccum packing
To: Len Glassner <len5742 at gmail.com>, pctl pctl
<pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net>
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Yeah it works well.
But don't get one thats "overly cheap". Get one thats
reasonably priced but looks sturdy. Make sure you get
out as much air as possible. If you are concerned
about any moisture, you can get those dessicant
packets to toss in, I never did though. After you've
sealed em, put em in the freezer until its time to
actually package and mail them. If you don't have a
dehydrater, they can be bought for less than $50.
(mine was $45 and works like a charm). I found having
bags of the following to be quite nice:
tomatoes (sliced, quartered, halved depending on size)
were a great addition for many evening meals.
banana spears/chips.
broccoli (cut it small and add it to mac'n'cheese
creations).
hummus (buy the bulk, or better make your own. use
olive oil when rehydrating) this+cheese+tortilla =
sustained hiking power for the rest of the day.
apples/pears/peaches/plums/honey dipped orange or
lemon slices/ other fruits are great snacks or lunch
additions.
ground beef/buffalo (a little tricky to do, but nice
to have)
zuchinni (sp?), sqaush, finely diced carrots, celery,
thin sliced bell peppers,
herbs (my mom has a garden and would send me bags with
tomatoes, green onions, basil)
couscous, dehydrated black or kidney beans, DH
lentils, etc.
Yeah go wild.
Before you send things like tortillas, mac'n'cheese /
pastas, or other pretty common food stuffs, look at
the place you're sending them. many towns where you
would go to pick up a box have these items at a
reasonable price, making shipping a waste of money.
Also, fresher is better and spending money in some of
the smaller towns contributes to the local economy and
builds good will for hikers. plus if they start
seeing more hiker business, they are more likely to
start thinking about hiker needs and making a greater
effort to stock the shelves with hiker appropriate
foods.
that aside, some places have too limited a selection
to resupply out of.
try to look at each of your resupply points carefully
so you can choose the best method for each town that
meets your needs and saves you the most money.
-------------speshul41
--- Len Glassner <len5742 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd like to bag things like cookies, gorp, crackers,
> etc and make up
> supply boxes weeks or months in advance. Anyone
> used a vacuum sealing
> to maintain freshness? Experiences?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Len
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:20:40 -0700
From: Tortoise <Tortoise73 at charter.net>
Subject: [pct-l] OT: lithium batteries in Canon cameras
To: Pacific Crest Trail List <pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net>
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HI,
I have a Canon Powershot A540 which uses AA batteries. Canon's website
for this camera says not to use lithium cells as they may overheat and
damage the camera. Has anyone used lithium AA cells in Canon cameras
when Canon said not to use them? what was your experience?
--
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 05:37:45 -0700
From: "Deems" <losthiker at sisqtel.net>
Subject: [pct-l] OT: lithium batteries in Canon cameras
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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I have a Canon Powershot A540 which uses AA batteries. Canon's website
for this camera says not to use lithium cells as they may overheat and
damage the camera. Has anyone used lithium AA cells in Canon cameras
when Canon said not to use them? what was your experience?
--
Tortoise
~~~~~~~~~~~~
I never noticed that in my A70 book, but it does say not to use lithiums due
to overheating on page21. I used lithiums on my JMT hike, getting about 400
shots per set of 4. The camera is still ok, but It's your call. I liked the
lighter weight and greater performance.
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 07:20:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Magnanti <pmags at yahoo.com>
Subject: [pct-l] (no subject)
To: PCT MailingList <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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>>I don't like the way it bulges out on one side. I like a flat camera that
will pack well.
Well, good thing I bought the camera and not you. ;-P
In all seriousness, there is a compromise with everything you buy. At this
point, a good camera is my luxury item. And the flat, small camera do not
have the features
I need. As I said, the camera is one step below an SLR. I am into
photography enough where I don't mind the extra weight and bulk.
YMMV.
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 07:22:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Magnanti <pmags at yahoo.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Digitial Camera..thanks!
To: PCT MailingList <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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>>These little Canon A# series Powershots also take filters with the correct
>>adaptor.
Yet another good reason why it is a good choice for me!
>>They are my choice for the trail.
Now, that's REALLY good to know. I've seen the pictures you took!
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--Thoreau
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 07:30:09 -0700
From: Matt Maxon <matt at mattmaxon.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Digitial Camera..thanks!
To: Paul Magnanti <pmags at yahoo.com>, PCT MailingList
<pct-l at backcountry.net>
Message-ID: <467BDCF1.3030607 at mattmaxon.com>
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Hey thanks to the list for this....
I've been looking at another camera for a while and this seems to fit
good with what I want, yeah it bulges but us "real men" are used to that
;-)
For the price and features it's winner!
Trail90
Paul Magnanti wrote:
> Well, what can I say, I am overwhelmed by the amount of responses I
received (about 2 dozen!).
> I decided to go with the Canon A630.
>
> http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Canon/canon_a630.asp
> http://www.dpreview.com/shop/merchants.asp?id=canon_a640 (a 640 review,
but the 630 is basically the 8mp version of this camera)
> http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/canon/powershot_a630_a640-review/
>
> FWIW, I went with this camera because:
>
> -It does use AA batteries
> - Has the optical view finder. (Call me old fashioned, but I frame and
compose pics better with the optical view finder. It works better outdoors
than an LCD, too).
> This part was by far the most important to me.
> -As others pointed out to me, SD cards are dirt cheap now.
>
> The A640 is a 10MP model, but was $100 more and the picture quality was
not that much higher. I was seriously looking at the A710, but the A630
seems to have many features, is a solid performer, and was less money. I do
not take many low light photographs, so the image stabilization feature is
not as critical, esp. since I use a mini-tripod anyway.
>
> It has many manual features, glowing reviews, and is a good step between a
consumer grade camera and a professional SLR. One review called it a camera
for the "serious amateur". I don't know how serious I am...but I am
definitely amateur in many things I do. :-)
>
> This type of camera (a P&S for someone into photography) is becoming
increasingly scarce. The next step for me would be an SLR...and a big weight
penalty. :( This camera better not break down!
>
> I have used DPReviews in the past, and find it to be an awesome source for
digital camera info.
>
> Thanks again for ALL the suggestions.
>
> Special thanks to Footslogger and Jim Bullard who both steered me in the
Canon direction.
>
> ************************************************************
> The true harvest of my life is intangible.... a little stardust
> caught, a portion of the rainbow I have clutched
> --Thoreau
> http://www.pmags.com
>
>
>
>
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 07:50:15 -0700
From: Shauna <csxii at schizoaffective.org>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Digitial Camera..thanks!
To: Matt Maxon <matt at mattmaxon.com>
Cc: PCT MailingList <pct-l at backcountry.net>, Paul Magnanti
<pmags at yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5bon73h0mbro6uch8biqn29e4pd477vtnn at 4ax.com>
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My Cannon A520 was a lemon and a lot of the "A" series Canon cameras have
problems. I will never buy another Cannon Camera. Look at the reviews
of the A520 on Amazon.com and you will see what I'm talking about.
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 07:30:09 -0700, Matt Maxon <matt at mattmaxon.com> had
this to say:
>Hey thanks to the list for this....
>I've been looking at another camera for a while and this seems to fit
>good with what I want, yeah it bulges but us "real men" are used to that
>;-)
>
>For the price and features it's winner!
>
>Trail90
>
>Paul Magnanti wrote:
>> Well, what can I say, I am overwhelmed by the amount of responses I
received (about 2 dozen!).
>> I decided to go with the Canon A630.
>>
>> http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Canon/canon_a630.asp
>> http://www.dpreview.com/shop/merchants.asp?id=canon_a640 (a 640 review,
but the 630 is basically the 8mp version of this camera)
>> http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/canon/powershot_a630_a640-review/
>>
>> FWIW, I went with this camera because:
>>
>> -It does use AA batteries
>> - Has the optical view finder. (Call me old fashioned, but I frame and
compose pics better with the optical view finder. It works better outdoors
than an LCD, too).
>> This part was by far the most important to me.
>> -As others pointed out to me, SD cards are dirt cheap now.
>>
>> The A640 is a 10MP model, but was $100 more and the picture quality was
not that much higher. I was seriously looking at the A710, but the A630
seems to have many features, is a solid performer, and was less money. I do
not take many low light photographs, so the image stabilization feature is
not as critical, esp. since I use a mini-tripod anyway.
>>
>> It has many manual features, glowing reviews, and is a good step between
a consumer grade camera and a professional SLR. One review called it a
camera for the "serious amateur". I don't know how serious I am...but I am
definitely amateur in many things I do. :-)
>>
>> This type of camera (a P&S for someone into photography) is becoming
increasingly scarce. The next step for me would be an SLR...and a big weight
penalty. :( This camera better not break down!
>>
>> I have used DPReviews in the past, and find it to be an awesome source
for digital camera info.
>>
>> Thanks again for ALL the suggestions.
>>
>> Special thanks to Footslogger and Jim Bullard who both steered me in the
Canon direction.
>>
>> ************************************************************
>> The true harvest of my life is intangible.... a little stardust
>> caught, a portion of the rainbow I have clutched
>> --Thoreau
>> http://www.pmags.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> pct-l at backcountry.net
>> unsubscribe or change options:
>> http://mailman.hack.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l
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>>
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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 08:43:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Magnanti <pmags at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Digitial Camera..thanks!
To: Shauna <csxii at schizoaffective.org>, Matt Maxon
<matt at mattmaxon.com>
Cc: PCT MailingList <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Message-ID: <86073.28906.qm at web33608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ascii
>>My Cannon A520 was a lemon and a lot of the "A" series Canon cameras have
>>problems. I will never buy another Cannon Camera. Look at the reviews
>>of the A520 on Amazon.com and you will see what I'm talking about.
Perhaps. But I tend to trust the reviews of DPReviews a bit more than
Amazon.
Just my bias. And the A series, esp. on camera sites, seems to get glowing
reviews.
Guess I'll find out soon enough.
It should be arriving today. As I have a beginners backpacking trip I am
leading this weekend, it is great timing!
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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:40:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Junaid Dawud <jdawud at yahoo.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Cameras and things
To: pctl pctl <pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net>
Message-ID: <989069.1810.qm at web43144.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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Hey all,
I'm in the process of uploading a bunch of pictures
taken with my Canon A85 on last years hike. You can
find them at http://www.flickr.com/photos/8768502@N08/
I'm at about Mt. Whiteny now and will be uploading
more and more over the next few days.
For all the camera people out there: the A85 is
actually kind of old, it is 4 MP and has only 3x
optical zoom. I made the switch to energizer lithiums
and never had any problme with them (in fact they are
light and last a long time).
Hope you like em!
(now to go to bed)----------Speshul41
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