[pct-l] Fw: sleeping bag/Tent

Steel-Eye chelin at teleport.com
Tue Nov 27 08:10:02 CST 2007


Good morning, Moondog,

 

Depending upon the altitude and aspect of your camp it's not uncommon to awake in the southern sections with frost all around, but a 35 deg. bag should be fine since you intend to sleep in a tent.  Layering is more than a bag with a liner.  On a cold night if I don't sleep wearing everything I brought, then I brought too much.  I would sleep wearing my jacket and any other of the very few clothing items I may have. Particularly important is a hat, usually a knitted stocking hat, and fleece gloves help as well.  I'm not fond of bag liners.  I get all tangled up in them, particularly since I usually sleep wearing clothes, and liners are single-purpose items.  I would rather invest the equivalent weight in items I can wear outside of the bag as well.

 

Steel-Eye


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Steel-Eye 
To: David Stewart 
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag/Tent


Good morning, Moondog,

 

TENT:  I don't find it very useful to try to catalogue the names of the pokey/prickly vegetation considering that about half of everything found in the desert sections will scratch, poke, or bite.  If I had a floor in an expensive tent I might worry, but I use only a ground cloth, which I assume it will become compromised to some degree; rather like expecting wear on shoe soles.

 

I take reasonable care when selecting a bed location, and if I see things that could hurt the ground cloth . or more importantly, me .. I will either move it or move me.  I have a stack of ground cloths, which are usually made of either SpinCloth or Tyvek, with some of coated rip-stop.  Last summer I carried a SpinCloth sheet from Campo to Echo Summit.  At that point it had some poke-holes and a few small tears so it was replaced.  As I recall, most of the damage occurred prior to Kennedy Meadows, but it worked OK through the Sierras.  Further north, the ground becomes increasingly "duffy" with soft fir needles, etc.  Up there, a ground cloth or tent floor will last a good long time.

 

Sleep well,

 

Steel-Eye
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Stewart 
  To: pct-l at backcountry.net 
  Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 2:38 AM
  Subject: [pct-l] sleeping bag/Tent


  Hello all (again), 

  As the holidays approach, I am going to fully use the opportunity to have people who love me buy me incredibly expensive/light gear for '08. I hope you all do the same. It helps to frame each piece as critical/life altering/the only thing that will save me above 10,000 feet. 

  Anywho, my choice for sleeping will be a Western Mountaineering Highlite long sleeping bag. This rates at 35 degrees, and I will get a liner with it. I sleep warm and I think I will prefer layers - I have the feeling that in a 20 degree bag I will love it in the Sierras and then nowhere else, constantly sleeping one leg out or something. 

  Is this a bad idea? Should I go with a 30 or 25 and the liner? I have to admit, the Highlite long is only 17 oz. and this idea tickles me pink. 

  TENT:

  going to go with the Tarptent Contrail. Do I need a groundcloth with this one? Are the pokey/prickly things so nasty in the desert that my sewn-in bathtub floor will look like swiss cheese afterwards?

  thanks again. 

  -moondog



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