[pct-l] DIGGING UP BONES

Reinhold Metzger reinholdmetzger at cox.net
Mon Aug 18 00:26:31 CDT 2008


Put it to sleep Tortoise......quit digging up bones.

JMT Reinhold
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Tortoise wrote:
>>  
>> No hiker deserves his hike to be criticized by other hikers.
> Says who? Why is anyone exempted from criticism?
> If a hiker leaves a mess, should we not criticize him?
> If you tout a hike is touted as an accomplishment deserving of praise, 
> are others then barred from criticizing?
>
> You are the one who has made such a big deal of Scott and Joe's hike 
> and their going for a record.
> You are the one who is impugning other peoples motives and making ad 
> hominem attacks.
> Tortoise
>
> <> He who finishes last, wins! <>
>   
>
>
> Reinhold Metzger wrote:
>> Kerry,
>> You have a point, everybody has a right to disagree.
>> There is a difference, however, between disagreeing and grumbling and criticizing. 
>> No hiker deserves his hike to be criticized by other hikers.
>> Just like there being more than one opinion there are more ways than one to hike the trail.
>> It has been my observation that every time a hiker like Scott, Joe, Brian or Michael goes on a 
>> speed hike it evokes a lot of criticism from a certain segment on this list who can not 
>> understand why anybody in his right mind would want to speed through a pristine wilderness and 
>> how they can not possibly enjoy their hike.
>> In my mind they are hypocrites for thinking their way of hiking is the only proper way to hike 
>> and enjoy the trail.
>> They embrace the HYOH principle but only if it's based on their own hiking criteria.
>>
>> Other hikers have hiked through trail closures, but the ones that get slammed and criticized are
>> the speed hikers because their speed hiking is frowned upon by those certain elements....you can  
>> slam me if you want to....but if you slam my buddies, I will speak up.
>> That is the only reason Scott and Joe have been singled out for criticism.
>>
>> STILL SEEMS LIKE SOUR GRAPES TO ME.....you know, short ones envy tall ones.....slow ones envy
>> fast ones.
>>
>> JMT Reinhold
>> Your slow, short trail companion.
>>
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>>
>> Kerry wrote:
>> rheinhold, you are a backbone of this list. But it is wrong to call people 
>> who disagree with you "grumblers." Nobody comes down on you for being the 
>> Scott and joe marching and chowder society. Sour grapes are not involved. 
>> Individuality is. There is always more than one opinion, yours (or mine) is 
>> certainly not always correct.
>>            Kerry,
>>               Covina Ca
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Reinhold Metzger" <reinholdmetzger at cox.net <http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l>>
>> To: "PCT" <pct-l at backcountry.net <http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:33 AM
>> Subject: [pct-l] Scott & Joe update
>>
>>
>>   
>>> / Joe has wrenched his knee, but they are still getting their miles and
>>>     
>> />/ plan on reaching Stevens Pass Wednesday (tomorrow)  between 4-6 PM and
>> />/ the monument the evening of August 18 around 8 PM.
>> />/ For those still grumbling about them hiking through a fire closure be
>> />/ reminded that they encountered fire fighters and Rangers
>> />/ in the closed area, were not issued any citations but were given the OK
>> />/ and blessings to continue.
>> />/ If the authorities gave their OK and blessings to continue they must
>> />/ have felt the conditions were safe enough to do so.
>> />/ The authorities have the last word and they have spoken......so what is
>> />/ the problem?
>> />/ Could the problem be sour grapes?
>> />/ I say swallow those sour grapes and join Andrea's  party tomorrow at
>> />/ Stevens Pass or join them at the Monument on the 18th
>> />/ to congratulate them for their tremendous achievement.
>> />/
>> />/ JMT Reinhold
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>> />
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