[pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 7, Issue 47
Chrystal Pendzich
ach.mensch at gmail.com
Fri Jul 25 21:36:25 CDT 2008
I'm getting ready to go on a 5 day hiking trip - this is the longest I've
hiked before and I'm unsure how to prepare and organize my food. Does anyone
have any recommendations? Someone suggested bringing pre-cooked rice with
me, and I was thinking tortillas and peanut butter, some dried fruit and
nuts...you know, the usual. Any ideas would help!Thanks,
Marzipan
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> 1. Re: section hiking advice please (Kent Spring)
> 2. The New Monte Dodge Bear Canister! (Bighummel at aol.com)
> 3. Re: section hiking advice please (BIll & Cathy)
> 4. Re: section hiking advice please (Eric Lee (GAMES))
> 5. Trail conditions, WA PCT (Eric Lee (GAMES))
> 6. Re: Northern CA smoke / Etna Summit roadwalk details - Please
> (enyapjr at comcast.net)
> 7. Trail Conditions and Snow report for Jefferson Park in Oregon
> (mattjolley at comcast.net)
> 8. Postholer Snow Page - Major Revision (Postholer)
> 9. Etna Summit road walk - CORRECTIONS! (enyapjr at comcast.net)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:42:24 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Kent Spring <kjssail at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] section hiking advice please
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Hi Janet -
> I can't recommend any one area over any other, but I can recommend a book
> that really exemplifies the best of why Section Hiking is a great way to
> hike the PCT. Indeed, it just might be a much better way to hike the trial
> rather then the vaunted "thru-hike". I think that the deserts of S Cal, the
> Sierra's and the Cascades are all great hiking, but very different!
>
> The book is : One Hundred Mile Summers: Hiking the Pacific Crest Trail from
> Mexico to Canada by Eleanor Guilford. Eleanor, who for some strange reason
> had a regular job, took off for a week or two each year for something like
> 20-years and hiked the entire trail. She never started until, I think, she
> was in her 40's. Great book and great hiker.
>
> I notice it is for sale at Amazon, but it is also available through
> interlibrary loan at most libraries.
>
> have fun, Kent
>
> >
> > For a number of reasons it doesn't look like we can get
> > away for 5-6 months to try a thruhike on the PCT. We can
> > however, do longer section hikes of 4-6 weeks. If you could
> > hike anytime during the year, where would you go and when?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Janet
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:59:01 EDT
> From: Bighummel at aol.com
> Subject: [pct-l] The New Monte Dodge Bear Canister!
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <bda.2b909ffe.35bb9895 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Monte has finally done it! Out thinking bears, engineers with big, long
> titles, etc. and come up with a technology breaking design that is, well,
> incredible.
>
> >From the instructions;
> "Release the handle by pulling down the strap and tightening the
> fasteners.
> Press the button and remove the safety cap, then turn the knob to unleash
> the spring and wind the excess slack onto the spool. Loosen the screws on
> the
> plate lid and insert the tabs into the slots. Rotate the control switch a
> quarter of a turn before lowering two levers. Then drop the main crank
> into a
> neutral position. Be careful not to unscrew the housing before engaging
> the
> catch. Plug in and you're set to go. If smoke fills the tent, read the
> troubleshooting guide at the rear of this manual."
>
> Greg "Strider" Hummel
> (tic, actually this is from the book by George Carlin, When Will Jesus
> Bring
> the Pork Chops? With "tent" substituted for "room")
>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:04:28 -0700
> From: "BIll & Cathy" <tahoe.cat at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] section hiking advice please
> To: "Jim & Janet Ake" <jake2003at at sbcglobal.net>,
> <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <000e01c8ee91$a5ca0d10$b0406e47 at catherinehome>
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>
> The "Sierras" Ground Pounder Bill
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim & Janet Ake" <jake2003at at sbcglobal.net>
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 7:59 AM
> Subject: [pct-l] section hiking advice please
>
>
> > For a number of reasons it doesn't look like we can get away for 5-6
> > months to try a thruhike on the PCT. We can however, do longer section
> > hikes of 4-6 weeks. If you could hike anytime during the year, where
> > would you go and when?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Janet
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:20:20 -0700
> From: "Eric Lee (GAMES)" <elee at microsoft.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] section hiking advice please
> To: Jim & Janet Ake <jake2003at at sbcglobal.net>,
> "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
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> Janet wrote:
> >
> For a number of reasons it doesn't look like we can get away for 5-6
> months to try a thruhike on the PCT. We can however, do longer section
> hikes of 4-6 weeks. If you could hike anytime during the year, where
> would you go and when?
> >
>
> I can only speak to Washington and Oregon, as that's my home territory and
> where I've been doing my section hikes for the last several years. I've
> covered all of Washington and half of Oregon so far, and it's all fantastic.
> I'm doing another 140 miles at the end of August this year. If I were
> planning a 6 week trip in that area (assuming the ability to average 100+
> miles per week), I'd probably start somewhere around Sisters and head north
> until I ran out or time or ran out of trail. If planning for only 4 weeks,
> I'd probably start at the Panther Creek Campground in Section H and head
> north. Adjust according to your hiking speed.
>
> In my opinion, the best time to hike in this area would be August and early
> September, with the last two weeks of August being the best all-around time
> on average. In late July or the start of August you might have some
> mosquitoes left to deal with, depending on the weather that year, and by the
> middle of September you risk experiencing the joys of multi-day rainstorms,
> but for a six week section hike in Oregon or Washington, I'd probably start
> the last week of July and go through the first week of September. For a
> four week trip, I'd start in early August and go through the end of August.
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:54:17 -0700
> From: "Eric Lee (GAMES)" <elee at microsoft.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Trail conditions, WA PCT
> To: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID:
> <
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> Since there have been several people asking lately, I thought I'd point out
> some recent trail conditions reports from the Washington PCT.
>
> (7/22) Here's something from someone who attempted to hike from Stevens
> Pass to Snoqualmie Pass (WA section K) and was defeated by snow. Very
> impressive picture included, considering it's late July!
> http://www.wta.org/~wta/cgi-bin.dev/wtaweb.pl?7+reports+displayM+2008072204
>
> (7/22) Someone reported meeting a PCT section hiker somewhere around
> Crystal Mountain who had walked from the Oregon border, "much of the way in
> snow". No idea who that might be, but it must have been a lot of work.
> http://www.wta.org/~wta/cgi-bin.dev/wtaweb.pl?7+reports+displayM+2008072203
>
> (7/21) Still over five feet of snow in places around Lake Valhalla, north
> of Stevens Pass in WA section K.
> http://www.wta.org/~wta/cgi-bin.dev/wtaweb.pl?7+reports+displayM+2008072200
>
> (7/21) Still lots of snow on all north-facing slopes in WA section K.
> http://www.wta.org/~wta/cgi-bin.dev/wtaweb.pl?7+reports+displayM+2008072106
>
> (7/21) LOTS of bugs out at Suiattle Pass in WA section K. Two thru-hikers
> (SOBO, I presume?) sighted.
> http://www.wta.org/~wta/cgi-bin.dev/wtaweb.pl?7+reports+displayM+2008072110
> http://www.nwhikers.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7968607&highlight=
>
> (7/21) Lots of snow between Dishpan Gap and Sauk Pass in WA section K.
> http://www.wta.org/~wta/cgi-bin.dev/wtaweb.pl?7+reports+displayM+2008072026
>
> The good news is that there are many more trip reports being written for
> the PCT than there were a few weeks ago, which means people are starting to
> get out on the trail. It seems that a few thrus and section hikers have
> covered most or all of the WA PCT between them, so the trail is technically
> "passable". Unfortunately, it's still far from easy hiking, though. Expect
> difficult travel and difficult route-finding for awhile still.
>
> Eric
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:27:35 +0000
> From: enyapjr at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Northern CA smoke / Etna Summit roadwalk details
> - Please
> To: mattjolley at comcast.net; pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
> <
> 072520082227.10622.488A53570005A3720000297E22165486869D069F0E97020A at comcast.net
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> It was extremely smoky late yesterday - at both Etna Summit and the Lovers
> Camp area... Slightly better today, but the westerly winds are picking up
> bringing in more smoke once again... The Caribou is still going strong -
> 7/24 report it is over 5800 acres; still lots of smoke from the Ukonom and
> Siskiyou Complexes as well...
>
> Regarding the roadwalk - the Scott River Road was very recently oiled and
> graveled for approximately 9 miles West out of Fort Jones... Another good
> reason to take the Mugginsville cutoff - save at least 5 miles road walikng
> plus 7+ miles of the possibility of having gravel kicked up by cars passing
> you...
>
> Regarding the Trinity Alps closure - I simply quoted what was posted on a
> bulletin board (by the "Incident" people) outside Ray's Market in Etna...
> BTW, the trailheads I mentioned which were not posted a day after the
> 'closure' are in the Salmon River RD... South Fork Lakes is in the Scott
> River RD, however...
> If you want to see something 'funny' - wait outside a FS district ranger
> office until the Incident folks come by and post yesterday's fire status...
> The ranger disrict staff comes out to read the day-old bulletins to find
> out what is going on with the fires! InciWeb (i.e. the Incident Command
> folks) doesn't seem to be able to communicate with the local forest service
> folks very well - and guess who has to pass along (mis)information to the
> public? - the local district staff!!... Really sad when you seriously think
> about it!!!
>
> Still best wishes and good luck to the '08 thrus (AND section hikers,
> too!)...
> Happy trails!!!
> Jim / "PITA"
>
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: mattjolley at comcast.net
> > PCT is still open in the Trinity Alps Wilderness, although the reports
> are that
> > it is smokey.
> >
> > The inciweb.org site for the Bear Wallow fire was corrected to specify
> the
> > Trinity Alps Wilderness closure was only for parts of the Salmon Ranger
> > Disctrict, not the entire Klamath National Forest
> > as it originally stated.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> > pita wrote.
> > Hello from the Etna Library...
> >
> > Arrived in NorCal Tuesday afternoon/evening - VERY SMOKY... Stopped by
> Castle
> > Crags/Amaratti's and gave a lift to 4 thrus to Mt. Shasta - couldn't see
> the
> > mountain at all!
> > Much smoke from the Caribou Fire (1 of 2 in the Bear Wallow Complex)
> which 'blew
> > up' late Monday and through Tuesday...
> > The Anthony Milne Fire (2 of 2 in Bear Wallow Complex) still burning but
> not
> > expanding much - however it is only being monitored - so the PCT remains
> CLOSED
> > from Etna Summit to Marble Valley...
> >
> > As of 7/23/08 reports, the Milne was at 1625 acres while the Caribou was
> 4807
> > acres (and by the smoke the Caribou is still growing)...
> > Also as of 7/23 the Trinity Alps Wilderness area that is in Klamath NF is
> closed
> > - but there was no posting at the Trail Gulch or Long Gulch trailheads
> late
> > 7/24...
> > The PCT does go through part of that area - i.e., ~South Fork Lakes basin
> to
> > Carter Meadows Summit...
> >
> > I will next be going to the NE corner of the Marble Mountains WA -
> Boulder Creek
> > trailhead (might be giving 2 thrus a ride to Lovers Camp IF new shoes
> arrive in
> > the mail today)...
> >
> > I'm printing out directions given previously,
> > <http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/2008-July/019143.html>,
> for Etna
> > to Lovers Camp and will leave them at Alderbrook B&B in the Hikers Hut...
> >
> > Best wishes and good luck to everyone in this very smoky area of
> NorCal... Wish
> > you could SEE this area!!
> > Happy trails!!!
> Jim / "PITA"
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:30:59 +0000
> From: mattjolley at comcast.net
> Subject: [pct-l] Trail Conditions and Snow report for Jefferson Park
> in Oregon
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
> <
> 072520082230.16516.488A5422000F3123000040842200750784970A040401069B9B0E03 at comcast.net
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>
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>
> Does anyone have better information on trail conditions in Jefferson Park
> and at Breitenbush Lk PCT trailhead?
>
> Willamette NF Detroit district is reporting 7/24 snow and ice over 5000
> ft. and verbally reported
> that a hiker reported 7/22 that Jefferson park was 80 percent covered in 2
> to 3 feet of snow.
>
> And Mt. Hood Clackamas district does not have any info on south rd. to
> Breitenbush Lake,
> although the gate is believed to be open.
>
> http://www.fs.fed.us/r6/willamette/general/detroit/wboard.php
>
> Date: 7-24-08
> Subject: Mt.Jefferson Wilderness
> Significant snow remains above 5000 ft.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: 7-24-08
> Subject: Jefferson Park Area
> Significant snow remains above 5000 ft. Still completely under 6-10 feet of
> snow. Lakes are still mostly frozen.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: 7-24-08
> Subject: Pacific Crest Trail #2000
> Trailhead at Santiam Pass is accessible. Trailhead at Breitenbush Lk is not
> accessible.
> **The PCT at the Milk Ck crossing has been repaired and is now passable by
> hiker and stock traffic.**
> Significant snow remains above 5000 ft.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:38:10 -0700
> From: "Postholer" <public at postholer.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Postholer Snow Page - Major Revision
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <001201c8eea7$1f571910$cfd78304 at Snoopy>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Yes, I know it's July....
>
> The snow page has undergone a major rewrite. You will not recognize it.
> Besides SWE graph/data it now has:
> + SWE (Snow Water Equivalent)
> + Daily Min Temp
> + Daily Max Temp
> + Daily precip amount
> + Annual Water Year precip
> + Snow Depth
>
> Read about all the changes:
> http://postholer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=549
>
> Visit the snow page:
> http://postholer.com/postholer/
>
> -postholer
>
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 01:29:35 +0000
> From: enyapjr at comcast.net
> Subject: [pct-l] Etna Summit road walk - CORRECTIONS!
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
> <
> 072620080129.12959.488A7DFF00053F4E0000329F22165579969D069F0E97020A at comcast.net
> >
>
>
> Had time this afternoon to check out the "Mugginsville" cutoff in the
> Quartz Valley area for the road walk from
> Etna Summit to Lovers Camp...
>
> Mileages are approximate!!!
> >From Etna Summit to the Alderbrook/Hikers Hut is ~10 miles...
> It is ~0.4 miles to 'downtown' Etna (such as the Etna Brewery!!) on Main
> Street...
> Turn left on Collier (Ray's Market), ~0.5 miles to Dotty's/Hwy. 3...
> Hwy. 3 North ~5.6 miles to 1st Greenview turnoff...
> Through Greenview on Main ~0.6 miles to Quartz Vally Road, turn left...
> Turn left ~1.6 miles (staying on Quartz Valley Road, do NOT go straight on
> Oro Fino Road)...
> Go ~1.8 miles to Mugginsville, stay on Quartz Valley Road (road curves to
> right at a junction)...
> Go straight at ~0.6 miles on Dangel Lane (formerly East Quartz Valley Road
> - sorry!) - a 'mix' of paved and dirt road...
> Rejoin Quartz Valley Road ~3.7 miles (turn right from Dangel Lane)...
> (if you stay on Quartz Valley Road instead of Dangel Lane, it will be ~4.5
> miles to the same point, but all paved)...
> Go ~0.8 miles to Scott River Road (at Meamber School), turn left...
> Go ~7.0 miles on Scott River Road to Indian Scotty bridge, turn left and go
> over bridge
> ~0.2 miles to Indian Scotty campground - water spigot at entrance is
> working...
> Take the "Trailheads" road and follow signs to Lovers Camp, ~7.3 miles...
> >From Lovers Camp to the PCT on Canyon Creek Trail is ~4.7 miles...
>
> [From 1st Greenview turnoff to Fort Jones is ~7.0 miles; Fort Jones to
> Meamber School on Scott River Road
> is ~7.2 miles... Please note there is very little shade on those 14+
> miles; also the Scott River Road has been
> oiled and graveled for ~9 miles out of Fort Jones]
>
> My calculation for the Etna Summit/Etna/Lovers Camp/PCT road walk via the
> Mugginsville cut off is ~45 miles...
> According to the Data Book the closed PCT portion is ~24 PCT miles...
>
> Hope this info helps the PCT hikers!
>
> Best wishes and good luck on your journey! Happy trails!!!
> Jim / "PITA"
>
>
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