[pct-l] Bear container hire?
andy.hiker at ntlworld.com
andy.hiker at ntlworld.com
Mon Mar 9 06:38:14 CDT 2009
Hi all
Does anyone know if I can hire an approved bear container and get it mailed general delivery somewhere on the trail, before mailing it back after the Sierras. I see that some containers are now not allowed which is a bit confusing. Previously I have hung my food on the CDT last year.
I think some containers weigh 2lb in weight!
I am coming over from the UK in April.
Your help is appreciated
Regards
Andy
For more info
http://blog.andywestactive.com/blog
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 13:19:19 -0700
> From: "AsABat" <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] The Bad News????
> To: "'Georgi Heitman'" <bobbnweav at gmail.com>,
> <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Nope, So Cal isn't getting any more of the Sacramento River water this
> year either. Right now we're only going to get 15% of our contract. Yes,
> some are getting zero, that's what their contract says. Imperial Valley
> gets NO water from the Sacramento, only from the Colorado. Their water
> rights were set before the cities even looked at the Colorado for water,
> and they won't give them up. Our farmers down here already had their
> water allocation cut 30% in January 2008, and are facing even bigger
> cuts this summer. Many have already bulldozed their trees and given up.
> Everyone else, houses, swimming pools, movie stars, will probably face
> mandatory water cuts this summer as well, possibly 20%. We are expecting
> total water use where I am to drop over 40% overall from two years ago,
> in spite of hotter drier weather.
>
> The weather drought is just part of the problem. The regulatory and
> environmental drought is a bigger problem. Right now water that could be
> going to the aqueducts to fill reservoirs is instead flowing out to the
> ocean because of the need to save the Delta smelt and it's cousin the
> longfin smelt - cute little guppy-sized fish. California has refused to
> fix its water systems to help both No Cal and So Cal store and move
> water when it's available, and now we are going to pay the price.
>
> Look to see farmers give up, businesses go under, at a time when our
> economy already stinks. A large clothing manufacturer wanted to build a
> distribution facility in Riverside County, with 100s of jobs, but was
> told they could get no water, so they didn't build a plant, didn't
> create no jobs, didn't pay taxes. No more jobs, lower tax revenue,
> especially from the industrial areas, and a continuing spiral downward
> until the floods come at the start of the next ice age.
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 13:27:32 -0700 (PDT)
> From: dicentra <dicentragirl at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] growing sprouts!! mmm
> To: littleleum at yahoo.com
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> There's a discussion about this on backpacking light right now...
> ?
> http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=18646
> ?
> I've done it at home (in a nalgene - same as how you'd do it on the trail) but I've never tried it on trail.
> ?
> ~Dicentra
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> http://www.onepanwonders.com?~ Backcountry Cooking at its Finest
> http://www.freewebs.com/dicentra
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> ?
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> --- On Sun, 3/8/09, Lenny Leum <littleleum at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> From: Lenny Leum <littleleum at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] growing sprouts!! mmm
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 11:24 AM
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>
> Hey, so I had this great idea, well, actually, it's good old mom who grows the sprouts. ?I was just thinking how great it would be to have fresh sprouts 2 or 3 days in when I had long since eaten all my perishables and such. ?The tricky part of growing sprouts is that you have to wash them 2 or 3 times a day to keep them moist and flush the water. ?This would be difficult if I had to deal with filtering/treating water to baby my sprouts, just another hastle that might not be worth the pay off. ?I was wondering what people thought about using untreated water to grow the sprouts, and then when they were ready to eat give them one good wash with treated water. ?If there was giardia or something nasty in the water you used to grow them, would that become a part of the grown sprout? ?Thanks for the feedback.On a side note "Humor - Don't Chanllenge a Woman," that was classic.Lenny
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> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 14:39:03 -0700
> From: Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com
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> Subject: Re: [pct-l] The Bad News????
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> On Mar 8, 2009, at 1:13 PM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
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> > The Bad News????
>
> Here in Santa Barbara it is sometimes illegal to water your lawn.
> People spray paint it green. Not all of So Cal is as wasteful as that
> region to my south that will not be named.
>
> Anyway, in my opinion, the level of water running in Southern
> California creeks is much lower than I would expect after so much
> recent rain. However, lots of tiny little creeks and springs are
> still going, so it's not that bad.
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:36:22 -0700
> From: Rena Johnston <renajf at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] what happened to Wheeew?
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> What happened to Wheeew I went to trail journals to check out how she had
> done the umbrella and the glue and tape she had used...and her journal is no
> longer there. Anyone no why?Does anyone remember what the tape and glue she
> used were?Thanks, 3tmom
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:52:29 -0700
> From: CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] The Bad News????
> To: Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Good afternoon,
>
>
>
> The level of concern you hear about California snow depends upon to whom you
> listen. If you ask the water resource managers responsible for reservoirs
> you will hear that the situation is so bad that the trout are carrying
> canteens. Conversely, it is understandable that anyone associated with the
> California ski industry would overstate the level of snowpack. They need to
> show a happy face and influence every ski dollar to stay in the state rather
> than fly off to Colorado for spring break. Especially since
> ftp://ftp.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/support/water/westwide/snowpack/wy2009/snow0902.gif
> shows that Colorado is in pretty good shape while the Sierras are a bit
> iffy. http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/snow/DLYSWEQ.
>
>
>
> On balance, it looks like the Sierra snowpack for us hikers may be around
> average -- or slightly below -- by the time we get there.
>
>
>
> Steel-Eye
>
> Hiking the Pct since before it was the PCT -- 1965
>
> http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye
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>
> On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com <
> diane at santabarbarahikes.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Mar 8, 2009, at 1:13 PM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
> >
> > > The Bad News????
> >
> > Here in Santa Barbara it is sometimes illegal to water your lawn.
> > People spray paint it green. Not all of So Cal is as wasteful as that
> > region to my south that will not be named.
> >
> > Anyway, in my opinion, the level of water running in Southern
> > California creeks is much lower than I would expect after so much
> > recent rain. However, lots of tiny little creeks and springs are
> > still going, so it's not that bad.
> >
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:59:24 -0700
> From: CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] what happened to Wheeew?
> To: Rena Johnston <renajf at gmail.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Good afternoon, 3tmom,
>
> The last I saw of her was 27 Sept 08 when I was working on a PCT maintenance
> project just north of Crest Camp in S. Washington. She was southbound and
> in good sprites .
>
> Steel-Eye
>
> On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Rena Johnston <renajf at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > What happened to Wheeew I went to trail journals to check out how she had
> > done the umbrella and the glue and tape she had used...and her journal is
> > no
> > longer there. Anyone no why?Does anyone remember what the tape and glue she
> > used were?Thanks, 3tmom
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 16:31:42 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Paul Magnanti <pmags at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] We raised a Ruckus in the Rockies
> To: AT MailingList <at-l at backcountry.net>, PCT MailingList
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> ..and here is the link to the photos and trip report. :)
>
>
> http://snipurl.com/deu2g [www_pmags_com]
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 20:24:00 -0400
> From: hiker97 at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Good News & Bad News
> To: reinholdmetzger at cox.net
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Unsupported Snow Bunny Reinhold writes: Since JMT/PCT Thru-hikers can't avoid it you might as well face it rather than ignore it.? Mammoth Mt.snow pack greatly exceeds the average snow pack for California or the Sierra...that?is why I ski there more than anywhere else....besides, it's right next to my baby, the JMT.? You guys should give it a try some day....keeps your legs in hiking shape during the off-hiking?season and the hot breath melts the snow which will benefit the hikers later in the season.?
> -----------------------------------------
> Switchback replies: What a crock.? I know from personal experience?why Unsupported tours this winter wonderland each year and hangs around the local resorts.? It is not physical fitness.? And it is not the JMT.? It is not the beauty of the PCT backcountry.? It is not doing a hiker?community duty to report the latest snow conditions.? It has nothing to do with helping the Class of 2009 or whoever to prepare for the mighty Sierras.??
>
> It is the human scenery pure and simple.? On many occasion I have had to?use my snowboard up there to run interference, cut-off,?and spray Unsupported off?the trail of pretty, unsuspecting winter enthusiasts.
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 20:38:40 -0400
> From: hiker97 at aol.com
> Subject: [pct-l] The Economy and Hiking
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> I wonder how the Recession/Depression will affect backpacking this year?? Will there still be the same participation at the Lake Morena April Kickoff?? How are hiking sales going at REI, etc.?
>
> Of course, it is a little early in the season, but there should be some indicators by now.? I just thought this was an interesting.? I guess you could say things will pick up in the hiking world and more people will hit the trail to get away from it all.? I just do not know about all this.? I would be surprised if participation was the same as in past years one way or the other.
>
> Switchback the Trail Pirate
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 18:06:10 -0700
> From: "Bill" <BillBatch at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] The Economy and Hiking
> To: <hiker97 at aol.com>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <F62E9F1170164F9FB54EE0E5D919607E at HomeOffice>
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> My suspicion is that the economy will affect the hiking in the following
> ways.
>
> 1. Many people do not take extended hikes because it disrupts their
> employment. So far, 8.1% more people may be hiking at least a section.
>
> 2. The kick-off may have fewer people that travel to the event just for the
> event. Those that incur significant expense to get there, but do not plan
> to hike, may opt not to pay the travel expenses this year.
>
> 3. We may see more hikers in town stealth camping, sharing rooms, or other
> methods of cutting those expenses. This is generally due to "feeling" like
> you ought not spend the money. Generally speaking, the hikers will not
> actually have less money, but not knowing if they will have a job to return
> to and a general "buckling up" will cause less to be spent.
>
> 4. I suspect we will see less REI type spending from thru hikers. For the
> same reasons as stated in #3, people are going to be more likely to work
> with their existing equipment rather than getting that super cool new
> version. Of course, most REI and the like shopping has nothing to do with
> true hikers and their reduced numbers will be more based on general
> shopping. (e.g. I have seen far more North Face jackets at the local high
> school football game than I have on the trail).
>
> Just my thoughts. I reserve the right to be wrong and I exercise that right
> regularly.
>
> Pink Gumby
>
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> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of hiker97 at aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 5:39 PM
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] The Economy and Hiking
>
> I wonder how the Recession/Depression will affect backpacking this year??
> Will there still be the same participation at the Lake Morena April
> Kickoff?? How are hiking sales going at REI, etc.?
>
> Of course, it is a little early in the season, but there should be some
> indicators by now.? I just thought this was an interesting.? I guess you
> could say things will pick up in the hiking world and more people will hit
> the trail to get away from it all.? I just do not know about all this.? I
> would be surprised if participation was the same as in past years one way or
> the other.
>
> Switchback the Trail Pirate
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 01:05:52 +0000 (UTC)
> From: annieguion at comcast.net
> Subject: [pct-l] beer sights
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> I used to work at a little brewery in Weed, CA, right in the shadow of Mt.
> Shasta. The city water supply was essentially spring fed straight from the
> mountain, and the brewery was hard-lined to the city's booster pumps, before
> chlorination and all that other nasty treatment. The water was beyond good,
> it was perfect. People would drive miles just for the water. And the beer
> you could make from that!! Beyond words.
>
> Unfortunately, I won't be carrying all the gear to make beer on
> trail...though that would be a very interesting thing to try sometime! I'd
> just recommend you sample the local flavors as you go. Let's see....Karl
> Strauss and Pizza Port in San Diego, Big Bear Mountain Brewery in Big Bear
> Lake, Fifty Fifty Brewing in Truckee, fresh Sierra Nevada in, well, the
> Sierras of course!, Mt Shasta Brewing in Weed (my old haunts), Etna Brewing
> in Etna, Standing Stone in Ashland, Dechutes and Bend Brewing in Bend, OR,
> Three Creeks Brewing in Sisters, Full Sail in Hood River, Walking Man in
> Stevenson, WA, all the incredible breweries of Portland, Snoqualmie Brewery
> in Snoqualmie, Sky River Brewing in Sultan, WA, and all the great breweries
> of Vancouver, BC if you head out that way. You see, the trail is just a
> route from one brewery to the next! I think that's what the trail's founders
> had in mind....
>
> Andy
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 8:05 AM, <wctrekker at dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the info on H2O treatment. I am not inclined to try and figure
> > out how to save a few cents and risk getting sick. Now let's get serious and
> > give us info on turning that trail water into beer. : )
> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> >
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