[pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 26, Issue 38

[Karen Doherty]

Hi everyone,

I'm new to this list...I'm thinking about PCT in a year and a half or
so...just starting to learn the details, so I can figure out if it's
do-able. Is there a place on line where someone who wants to hike can find
someone else who wants to hike?

Thanks!
Karen

Eating well, however simply, is part of a life fully lived" -Jim Harrison


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>   1. commments on gear list (Kimberlie Dame)
>   2. Recommended Backpack Size (Jeff Perkins)
>   3. Re: Recommended Backpack Size (David Ellzey)
>   4. Re: Packs.....UL Internals vs Externals (hiker97 at aol.com)
>   5. Decomposition of 2-Ply & 1-Ply TP (Paul Bodnar)
>   6. Shoe Shop (Kea)
>   7. Re: Recommended Backpack Size (Josh)
>   8. Re: Shoe Shop (tom aterno)
>   9. Re: Recommended Backpack Size (CHUCK CHELIN)
>  10. Re: tide, planning, rangers, comments (gwschenk at socal.rr.com)
>  11. Steripen Classic & digital scales (Trekker4 at aol.com)
>  12. Re: Decomposition of 2-Ply & 1-Ply TP (gwschenk at socal.rr.com)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Kimberlie Dame <kimberlie.dame at gmail.com>
> To: Pct-l at backcountry.net
> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 21:52:56 -0700
> Subject: [pct-l] commments on gear list
> I want to thank everyone for their comments on my gear list for the Arizona
> Trail. I will post what I ended up taking and then just for giggles, what I
> ended up mailing back home during the trip.. I'm hoping to fine tune with
> this trip what it is I will take on the PCT in 2011. There are so many
> different styles of hiking and not knowing what mine is, your advice has
> been valuable! Thanks again and see you out there!
>
> Kimberlie in Sedona
>
> "thenewnomads.com"
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>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jeff Perkins <jeffperkins at u.boisestate.edu>
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 22:36:41 -0700
> Subject: [pct-l] Recommended Backpack Size
> I'm trying to get my gear in order for a thru-hike (probably 2011... I
> can't
> leave work this year), and I have a 3800 cu in pack.  I can get about 4
> days
> out of this pack.  Is this enough, or would anyone who has done the PCT
> thru-hike recommend a larger pack?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jeff.
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Ellzey <david at xpletive.com>
> To: "pct-l at backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 23:42:25 -0600
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Recommended Backpack Size
> Jeff,
>
> We've done 10 days out of packs that size (60 liters) with no problems.
> Although we had bear canisters, we could have done the same amount without
> them. I am guess that for us, 5 days is ideal and 12 days would be the
> maximum we'd want to carry.
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Jeff Perkins
> Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 9:37 PM
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] Recommended Backpack Size
>
> I'm trying to get my gear in order for a thru-hike (probably 2011... I
> can't
> leave work this year), and I have a 3800 cu in pack.  I can get about 4
> days
> out of this pack.  Is this enough, or would anyone who has done the PCT
> thru-hike recommend a larger pack?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jeff.
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: hiker97 at aol.com
> To: completewalker at gmail.com, reinholdmetzger at cox.net
> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 00:55:59 -0500
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Packs.....UL Internals vs Externals
>
> One of the best external frame packs I have seen is the LuxuryLite.com
> pack.  Here is one sweet set up for the 2010 campaign:
>
> -- Luxury Lite modular pack with the Shadow Gray cylinders.
> Luxury Lite modular pack with the Shadow Gray cylinders.
> -- SunPrecautions.com white Ultra Athlete Full Zip Shirt, pants, hand
> guards, and hat with full drape.
> -- ultra light Western Mountaineering bag with Sea-to-Summit Reactor liner
> used as overbag when needed.
> -- REI Quarter Dome tent or something that gives you 360 degree bug free,
> rain proof views.  Do not go out with a nylon prison.
>
> Once again, Switchback, comes through for the hiking community with advice
> to guarantee Canada this year on the PCT in comfort and fun.
>
> Say, there is a BIG road trip coming up to Section A of the PCT in few
> weeks.  Three of us are heading to Warner Springs Resort to check out the
> trail, Lake Morena, and a massive goof off at the resort.  Copious amounts
> of fun will be had at the hot springs pool and lounge area for three days.
>  Each of us have a separate cabin with queen sized beds ....... the only way
> to take on the trail.
>
> Your humble servant,
> Switchback the Trail Pirate
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Paul Bodnar <paulbodnar at hotmail.com>
> To: pct-L backcountry.net <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 02:38:54 -0500
> Subject: [pct-l] Decomposition of 2-Ply & 1-Ply TP
>
> Three different types of toilet paper were exposed to a light rain to study
> the different decomposition rates.  The 2-Ply toilet paper, Charmin Ultra
> Soft, showed the slowest decomposition rate.  The 1-Ply Scott Extra Soft and
> 1-Ply Sealand Rapid Dissolving toilet paper decomposed much faster and
> showed very similar decomposition rates.  Surprisingly the less expensive
> 1-Ply Scott Extra Soft (Septic Safe) showed a slightly higher decomposition
> rate than the more expensive rapid dissolving toilet paper.  These results
> suggest that 1-Ply toilet paper shows a superior decomposition rate than
> heavier 2-Ply toilet paper.
>
>
>
> The direct link to the study is below.
>
>
>
>
> http://hikethru.com/hiking-information/backyard-science/toilet-paper-decomposition
>
>
>
> Paul
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Kea <keahiker at gmail.com>
> To: Pacific Crest Trail List <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 20:46:26 +1300
> Subject: [pct-l] Shoe Shop
> Does anyone know of a shoe shop in San Diego that has a good range of trail
> shoes?
>
> Kea
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Josh <559josh at gmail.com>
> To: "'Jeff Perkins'" <jeffperkins at u.boisestate.edu>, <
> pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 00:38:49 -0800
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Recommended Backpack Size
> I'm not sure what your packing or what your gear list includes, but I have
> an Exos 58 (which I believe is 58L...which = 3540ci) and that has gotten me
> by with 8 days including a bear canister.  I think I could have easily done
> 9 or MAYBE even 10 days with my pack.  I'm NOT a minimalist at all but I
> use
> a tarp not a tent and have a lot of UL (and low volume) stuff.  BY FAR the
> largest (volume-wise) 'item' in my pack was my food just after a resupply.
> J
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Jeff Perkins
> Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 9:37 PM
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] Recommended Backpack Size
>
> I'm trying to get my gear in order for a thru-hike (probably 2011... I
> can't
> leave work this year), and I have a 3800 cu in pack.  I can get about 4
> days
> out of this pack.  Is this enough, or would anyone who has done the PCT
> thru-hike recommend a larger pack?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jeff.
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: tom aterno <nitnoid1 at yahoo.com>
> To: Pacific Crest Trail List <pct-l at backcountry.net>, Kea <
> keahiker at gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 07:02:31 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Shoe Shop
> In San Diego, there is Adventure 16 and REI, standard fare backpacking
> stores with a decent selection of boots and shoes.  Nomad Venture in
> Escondido has a good selection and I think they have Golite too.  Roadrunner
> Sports I believe is on the same street as REI if you like trail runners,
> which is what I use.
>
> I bought my shoes at Adventure 16 at their Alvarado Street store.  They
> have really good fitters in that store.
>
> The Incredible Bulk
>
>
> --- On Sun, 2/7/10, Kea <keahiker at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Kea <keahiker at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Shoe Shop
> To: "Pacific Crest Trail List" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 11:46 PM
>
>
> Does anyone know of a shoe shop in San Diego that has a good range of trail
> shoes?
>
> Kea
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net>
> To: Jeff Perkins <jeffperkins at u.boisestate.edu>
> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 07:37:10 -0800
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Recommended Backpack Size
> Good morning, Jeff,
>
> For only four days I get along nicely with about 2,500 cubic inches, which
> is a GoLite Breeze mostly full.  For the longest stretches of PCT I extend
> the Breeze to about 3,000-3,100 cubic inches.  Even then I don’t really
> have
> to because I refuse compress my sleeping bag so it is poked in loose and
> occupies more space than it really could.
>
> Remember the backpacker’s corollary to Parkinson’s Law:  The amount "stuff"
> expands to occupy whatever space is available.  Getting rid of the
> unnecessary capacity also eliminates the propensity to carry unnecessary
> gear.
>
> Steel-Eye
>
> Hiking the Pct since before it was the PCT – 1965
>
> http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye
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>
>
> On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 9:36 PM, Jeff Perkins
> <jeffperkins at u.boisestate.edu>wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to get my gear in order for a thru-hike (probably 2011... I
> > can't
> > leave work this year), and I have a 3800 cu in pack.  I can get about 4
> > days
> > out of this pack.  Is this enough, or would anyone who has done the PCT
> > thru-hike recommend a larger pack?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Jeff.
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: <gwschenk at socal.rr.com>
> To: Deep Desert Expeditions <mike at deepdesert.com>
> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:49:07 +0000
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] tide, planning, rangers, comments
> ---- Deep Desert Expeditions <mike at deepdesert.com> wrote:
> > And then the Rangers--I keep seeing references to rangers giving hikers
> what seems to be a hard time;
> >fire permits, going off itinerary; do they have something against
> backpackers?  or are there a few
> >who've >pushed things and now the rangers are checking everyone about
> everything?
>
> In 25 years of backpacking in the Sierra I've never had anything but
> pleasant encounters with rangers.
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Trekker4 at aol.com
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net, cdt-l at backcountry.net
> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:52:46 EST
> Subject: [pct-l] Steripen Classic & digital scales
> On one of the lists above someone said their Steripen Classic  weighed 11
> oz. Mine weighs 6 oz, with lithium batteries, including the qt  zip bag I
> keep it in. Don't waste your money, or your back; always buy lithium
> batteries: 1-2 months in a Steripen, all hiking season in a Pocketmail
> (used a  lot),
> at least 10 tapes on slow speed in a microcorder, a month in a headlamp,
> etc, etc.
>
> On a New Year's trip to the Dallas area, I made my annual visit to the Ikea
>  store. They have a 6.5 lb max, round platform, digital scale for $25. It
> weighs grams or ounces, to the closest .25 oz for the latter. That 6 oz
> weight above came from the digital scale, slightly less weight than I was
> getting from my old 1 lb &  20 lb mechanical scales. If you've priced
>  digital
> scales at O Max, O Depot, or O Staples - even online - you know they
>  aren't
> that inexpensive.
>
> Bob  "Trekker"
> Big Bend Desert Denizen, and...
> Naturalized Citizen - Republic  of Texas
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: <gwschenk at socal.rr.com>
> To: "pct-L backcountry.net" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 16:40:34 +0000
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Decomposition of 2-Ply & 1-Ply TP
> Please, when traveling through the backcountry, have the courtesy to carry
> out your TP.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Gary
>
> ---- Paul Bodnar <paulbodnar at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Three different types of toilet paper were exposed to a light rain to
> study the different decomposition rates.  The 2-Ply toilet paper, Charmin
> Ultra Soft, showed the slowest decomposition rate.  The 1-Ply Scott Extra
> Soft and 1-Ply Sealand Rapid Dissolving toilet paper decomposed much faster
> and showed very similar decomposition rates.  Surprisingly the less
> expensive 1-Ply Scott Extra Soft (Septic Safe) showed a slightly higher
> decomposition rate than the more expensive rapid dissolving toilet paper.
>  These results suggest that 1-Ply toilet paper shows a superior
> decomposition rate than heavier 2-Ply toilet paper.
> >
> >
> >
> > The direct link to the study is below.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> http://hikethru.com/hiking-information/backyard-science/toilet-paper-decomposition
> >
> >
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
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