[pct-l] Backpacks - REI Flash

Shawn Hudson shizaquawn at gmail.com
Sun Nov 7 22:26:40 CST 2010


Saw that someone was talking about the Flash 65. For women, there is also
the Flash 50, which is what my fiancée  has. It's the perfect size for a
thru-hike. Not too big, not too small. If you can stop in the store to check
it out, go for it.

- "Voodoo"

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>   1. Re: Wait, what is the 411 on REI Flash?
>      (Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes)
>   2. Oregon Photos (Phil Baily)
>   3. Cactus to Clouds (Paul A)
>   4. Gear for late spring snow? (Jeff Davis)
>   5. Re: Wait, what is the 411 on REI Flash? (Tortoise)
>   6. Re: Bikes on PCT- alternative enforcement idea (Tortoise)
>   7. Re: Gear for late spring snow? (Jim & Jane Moody)
>   8. So Brick... (tokencivilian at yahoo.com)
>   9. Re: Oregon Photos (John Abela)
>  10. Re: So Brick... (Brick Robbins)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 15:29:10 -0800
> From: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Wait, what is the 411 on REI Flash?
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> A big pack (in volume) is not such a bad thing to have if you are
> planning a thru-hike or a hike longer than a month or so. That extra
> space may just come in handy for food. I had a Gossamer Gear G4 which
> is something like 4000 cu inches. Way too big just for my gear, but
> add my food and I barely could pull the drawstring at the top closed.
> On Nov 7, 2010, at 2:51 PM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
>
> > Hey Ashley,
> > ?
> > I have an REI Flash 65 and it works for me. It's a little over 2lbs
> > or something and is really very comfortable-- more comfortable
> > (IMO) than the other packs REI has to offer. There is way too much
> > space for me, but I'm sure that's not a huge problem. I wanted the
> > lifetime warranty, so the Flash is what I'm sticking to for now.
> > ?
> > Glad you asked, because I'm interested in hearing other's opinions
> > as well!
> > Whitnee
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 16:06:14 -0800
> From: "Phil Baily" <pkbaily at verizon.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Oregon Photos
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> I have recently posted photos taken in Oregon Section B at
> www.philhikes.org.
>
> Pieces
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 16:32:23 -0800
> From: Paul A <alphabetsoupmmm at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Cactus to Clouds
> To: Pct-L at backcountry.net
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> Has anyone in this community ever hiked the Cactus to Clouds Trail up the
> east face of Mt San Jacinto? I am thinking about attempting it after the
> PCT
> next year. Would love to hear about the experience.
>
> paul
>
> --
> The truly simple life exists within the zippers of my backpack, powered by
> my own legs, burning only natural fuel, leaving no trace that I was ever
> there.
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 11:34:05 -0800
> From: "Jeff Davis" <jeffd1242 at fairpoint.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Gear for late spring snow?
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> ?I managed Oregon and Washington this year so it's time to do the whole
> thing.  Right now I'm worrying about gear for snow in California and would
> like to know what the list thinks after dealing with the late snow of 2010.
> More specifically:
>
> Is an ice axe necessary?  I've got a mountaineering background and am very
> familiar with self-arrest.  I could use a trekking pole to stop on fairly
> steep slopes if they're not really icy.
>
> Are running crampons like Kahtoola Microspikes effective or should I go
> with
> lightweight regular crampons (or maybe with none)?
>
> Running shoes versus light boots for snowy sections?
>
> Grendel
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 17:45:56 -0800
> From: Tortoise <Tortoise73 at charter.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Wait, what is the 411 on REI Flash?
> To: Whitnee Goode <whitneegoode at yahoo.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Really hard for me to compare my ULA Catalyst with the REI Flash from just
> the info on REI website. Just from what I can get from the website, with
> the Flash the waist belt is permanently fastened to the pack so one cannot
> get a pack based on one's torso and a waist belt based on one's girth which
> I needed and is more adaptable to the individual. But the ULA flexibility
> also incurs a weight penalty.
>
> Maybe when I'm going by an REI store I'll stop in and take a look.
>
> Tortoise
>
> <> Because truth matters! <>
>
> On 11/07/10 11:12, Whitnee Goode wrote:
> > Hey Ashley,
> >
> > I have an REI Flash 65 and it works for me. It's a little over 2lbs or
> something and is really very comfortable-- more comfortable (IMO) than the
> other packs REI has to offer. There is way too much space for me, but I'm
> sure that's not a huge problem. I wanted the lifetime warranty, so the Flash
> is what I'm sticking to for now.
> >
> > Glad you asked, because I'm interested in hearing other's opinions as
> well!
> > Whitnee
> >
> > --- On Sun, 11/7/10, Ashley Lowe<alowe8 at hotmail.com>  wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Ashley Lowe<alowe8 at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: [pct-l] Wait, what is the 411 on REI Flash?
> > To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> > Date: Sunday, November 7, 2010, 10:30 AM
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi guys,Was reading an old post on backpacks and I came across someone
> talking about REI Flash. Hadn't heard about that one. I've been debating
> over new packs for a while, looking between ULA and such but then this REI
> Flash pops up and its cheap and I can maybe swap it for my present REI
> backpack.... just interested in thoughts.Ashley
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> Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 17:46:52 -0800
> From: Tortoise <Tortoise73 at charter.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Bikes on PCT- alternative enforcement idea
> To: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Well put.
>
> Tortoise
>
> <> Because truth matters! <>
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> On 11/07/10 11:24, Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes wrote:
> >
> > On Nov 7, 2010, at 9:56 AM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
> >
> >> Bikes on PCT- alternative enforcement idea
> >
> > Bicyclists are already allowed on the PCT for the full length. They
> > are simply required to leave their bicycles at home. There are other
> > trails where they can ride their bicycles. The PCT is for walking.
> >
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 02:04:26 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Jim & Jane Moody <moodyjj at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Gear for late spring snow?
> To: Jeff Davis <jeffd1242 at fairpoint.net>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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>
> Here we go again.? The answers to all your questions are "yes".
>
>
>
> I'm an old guy whose only mountaineering experience was at Mtn Ned's Snow
> School in December.? I?have hiked the AT, however, so I wasn't a complete
> neophyte.
>
>
>
> Here's what I did.? I switched from sneakers, aka trail runners, to fairly
> sturdy boots (Garmont Synchros) at Kennedy Meadows.? I didn't have crampons
> till after Forester Pass, w hen th e rest of my group told me they thought I
> was endangering myself and them without them.? I bought a pair of Kahtoolas
> in Lone Pine , and I'm glad I did.? I wore them infrequently, but when I
> wore them, they really helped with traction.? By the way, 4 of our group of
> 6 wore sneakers.? The other wore boots, which were lighter than mine.? If
> and when I do it again, I will wear boots from Lone Pine (Horseshoe Meadows,
> south of Forester Pass) to at least Sonora Pass.? They gave me stability on
> snow (especially on traverses) and on stream crossings.? Yes, th ey got
> wet.? Yes, they were slow to dry.? So what! ? And y es, they froze at night,
> but when I remembered to loosen up the laces a lot, I could still get them
> on fairly easily.
>
>
>
> As to ice axes, we all carried one north of KM.? A very valuable piece of
> gear for conditions we faced this year - self-belaying, rudder when
> glissading, digging catholes, holding up tent lines, self-arrest, etc.? If
> 2011 is anything like 2010, I definitely recommend carrying your ice axe
> from south of Forester.? You might also need it in the San Jacintos above
> Idlewild (Apache Peak, South Peak, Fuller Ridge).
>
>
>
> Good luck and have a great hike.
>
> Mango
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Davis" <jeffd1242 at fairpoint.net>
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Sent: Sunday, November 7, 2010 2:34:05 PM
> Subject: [pct-l] Gear for late spring snow?
>
> ?I managed Oregon and Washington this year so it's time to do the whole
> thing. ?Right now I'm worrying about gear for snow in California and would
> like to know what the list thinks after dealing with the late snow of 2010.
> More specifically:
>
> Is an ice axe necessary? ?I've got a mountaineering background and am very
> familiar with self-arrest. ?I could use a trekking pole to stop on fairly
> steep slopes if they're not really icy.
>
> Are running crampons like Kahtoola Microspikes effective or should I go
> with
> lightweight regular crampons (or maybe with none)?
>
> Running shoes versus light boots for snowy sections?
>
> Grendel
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 03:31:24 +0000
> From: tokencivilian at yahoo.com
> Subject: [pct-l] So Brick...
> To: "PCT L" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> "those who shall not be mentioned" (my words and scare quotes) are engaged
> in an ongoing campaign, via their powerful user group, the IBM-A or
> something like that (slightly off, but close enough,) to open the trail to
> uses that would clearly destroy its character as THE premiere long distance
> hiking trail.  How is this not on topic?  How is making everyone aware of
> this threat to the trail and discussing it not productive?  How is
> discussing methods of preserving this unique trail from said threat off
> topic?
>
> The clowns won't stop until they can engage in their chosen activity
> everywhere - wilderness, the PCT, you name the trail that isn't open to
> their preferred mode of transport.  Simply put, they're selfish children -
> gimme, gimme, gimme and don't care how many others must suffer the
> destruction of what makes the PCT and wilderness unique to get what they
> want.  Those of us who want to preserve and steward the trail and wilderness
> so that future generations can have a taste of wildness, of a connection to
> the past, of the ways before everything mechanization took over the world,
> in discussing this threat to the trail are off topic?  Sir, I would suggest
> that it is more on topic than a substantial fraction of the list traffic.
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 19:32:52 -0800
> From: John Abela <pacificcresttrail2011 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Oregon Photos
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Nice, thanks for sharing!
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Phil Baily <pkbaily at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > I have recently posted photos taken in Oregon Section B at
> > www.philhikes.org.
> >
> > Pieces
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 19:45:56 -0800
> From: Brick Robbins <brick at brickrobbins.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] So Brick...
> To: tokencivilian at yahoo.com
> Cc: PCT L <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> I don't really have any issues with discussing protecting the trail
> from bikes, or any other threat.
>
> The problem was a pro mountain bike Troll who has subscribed under at
> least two different addresses, and I assume is still subscribed under
> a third.
>
> I don't want the list to degenerate into a flame war caused the Troll.
>
> That is all.
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 7:31 PM,  <tokencivilian at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > "those who shall not be mentioned" (my words and scare quotes) are
> engaged in an ongoing campaign, via their powerful user group, the IBM-A or
> something like that (slightly off, but close enough,) to open the trail to
> uses that would clearly destroy its character as THE premiere long distance
> hiking trail. ?How is this not on topic? ?How is making everyone aware of
> this threat to the trail and discussing it not productive? ?How is
> discussing methods of preserving this unique trail from said threat off
> topic?
> >
> > The clowns won't stop until they can engage in their chosen activity
> everywhere - wilderness, the PCT, you name the trail that isn't open to
> their preferred mode of transport. ?Simply put, they're selfish children -
> gimme, gimme, gimme and don't care how many others must suffer the
> destruction of what makes the PCT and wilderness unique to get what they
> want. ?Those of us who want to preserve and steward the trail and wilderness
> so that future generations can have a taste of wildness, of a connection to
> the past, of the ways before everything mechanization took over the world,
> in discussing this threat to the trail are off topic? ?Sir, I would suggest
> that it is more on topic than a substantial fraction of the list traffic.
> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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