[pct-l] PCT-L now in forum format/unauthorized taking

[Charles Doersch]

Yes, me and my family of hikers who follow these postings daily in
preparation for our 2012 thru-hike are concerned as well for many of the
reasons listed elsewhere, and the reasons Ken lists here.

Two of us are professional writers, who get well paid for our work. I
intentionally have not added my voice to the postholer site's
blogs/conversations -- as I profoundly disagree with his treatment of
members of this community on the PCT-L. There's no question (as many of us
have noted in previous postings) that he's free to say and act as he will on
his own site. But I think he is not free to take my postings and your
postings and reproduce them on his site, to his advantage. It's unethical,
and possibly illegal.

~Charles & the Gang

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Ken Murray <kmurray at pol.net> wrote:

> When I first saw the notice of this, I did not carefully read
> what was happening, but I now realize that there has been an
> unauthorized taking of people's property from this PCT_l list.
> I say property, as anything we write is our property, protected
> by copyright law.  We allow the use of it when we post it here,
> but we do not give it away.
>
> Normally, this would not be a big deal.  I don't actually believe
> that there is a lot of commercial value to our writing here, although
> it potentially could drive some traffic.  What I do object to, is
> taking something that belongs to someone else, without asking.  That is
> just rude, unethical, and crude.  We have no idea what motive is
> behind this, because none has been stated.
>
> I do have concerns about someone who has actually demonstrated
> a willingness to suppress other points of view, not in theory,
> but in actual practice.  You will note
> in this "Brave New World" of the PCT_L Board, there will be the
> ability of the moderator to remove a persons post if the moderator
> disagrees with that point of view.  No appeal, no review.
> On the PCT_L   that does NOT
> exist, because once an email has been sent, it cannot be recalled.
> Brick has generally used a "light" hand in moderating, stepping
> in to talk about blocking posting moving forward, but this would
> be different, eliminating the historical record, and there
> would be NO appeal.  His website talks about "the collective
> wisdom of the hiker community", but he runs his website as
> an absolute dictatorship, absolutely.  The PCT_L functions
> as a collective community, the Postholer does not.
>
> This doesn't feel like a service to the PCT community the way
> this was done, if feels like a takeover of the content of this
> site, to enhance the value of Scott Parks' exclusively owned website,
> and it doesn't pass the smell test to me.
>
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