[pct-l] My plans,in a nutshell

Mike Chapman altathunder76 at gmail.com
Wed Jan 5 12:45:37 CST 2011


All national parks and private lands without permission are places not
legal to take rattlesnake,and thats everywhere in the US.

On 1/5/11, giniajim <jplynch at crosslink.net> wrote:
> Might depend on where you are.  If you're in a national park, you cannot
> disturb wildlife.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Mike Chapman
>   To: giniajim
>   Cc: Melanie Clarke ; Paul Robison ; pct-l at backcountry.net
>   Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 11:58 AM
>   Subject: Re: [pct-l] My plans,in a nutshell
>
>
>   Heres a little fun fact,CA fish and game says that california
>   rattlesnakes are far from endangered,not even threatened to be
>   endangered,and totally legal to take without a licence,so all were
>   really talking about is your personal moral ground,so excuse me if you
>   happen to see me eating a snake burrito.
>
>   On 1/5/11, Mike Chapman <altathunder76 at gmail.com> wrote:
>   > Just to clarify,your right Paul! Hunting snakes does take energy,but
>   > if you read my posts instead of  passing judgment,you will find that
>   > infact I am not hunting snakes!!! If I happen across one,it would be a
>   > very tasty meal for me to pass on,as well as rats and such to balance
>   > the dang ecosystem for melanie. And I said "THE REMAINS WOULD BE
>   > BURNED"(or buried),so no people affected by my meal,and thats about
>   > the only fires I plan on building(non firebug) as I will do the
>   > journey with cold food. I just didnt like when you put trailpooper in
>   > my face,and you seem to need the last word(childish). If theres a
>   > problem with my writing or alot of commas,,,,, then please cease to
>   > read. O.K. thats the last I will speak of the matter,this is a huge
>   > downer,and if this is the kind of people ill be dealing with,then
>   > thank god im going alone,Ive planned this hike for over 14 years and
>   > you cant,wont,and will never bring me down,even with your name calling
>   > e-mails,some were funny(thanks),but it shows me the lack of respect
>   > you have for others. Hike on in good health and good luck everyone.
>   >
>   > On 1/5/11, giniajim <jplynch at crosslink.net> wrote:
>   >> Read "Don Coyote"; very good explanation about the complex and
> interwoven
>   >> nature of the environment.
>   >>
>   >>   ----- Original Message -----
>   >>   From: Melanie Clarke
>   >>   To: Paul Robison
>   >>   Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
>   >>   Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:30 PM
>   >>   Subject: Re: [pct-l] My plans,in a nutshell
>   >>
>   >>
>   >>   Dear PCT,
>   >>
>   >>   We don't want to upset the delicate ecosystems.  Rattlesnakes keep
> the
>   >>   rodent population down.  You take out this valuable member and the
>   >> rodent
>   >>   population will explode.  I'm not a biologist but rodents carry
>   >> diseases,
>   >>   maybe they will destroy plant life, which could lead to erosion etc.
> I
>   >> read
>   >>   an article from the Sierra Club on how the entire ecosystem of the
>   >>   Yellowstone area was destroyed just because they killed all the
> wolves.
>   >>   Deer and Moose exploded, ate all the vegetation, I can't remember but
>   >> it
>   >>   devastated the water streams and systems.  They explained it very
>   >> clearly,
>   >> I
>   >>   should go look for it.  Anyway, after they re-introduced the wolves
> the
>   >>   balance has been almost restored after 5-10 years, again, I don't
> have
>   >> the
>   >>   exact facts but you get the idea.
>   >>
>   >>   With so many people traveling along the PCT, I don't think we should
> be
>   >>   harvesting the plant life either.  We can get food, the animals
> can't.
>   >> I
>   >>   think we should be self sustaining along the trail and not take food
>   >> from
>   >>   the wild life.  I know it's "cool" to survive like the Indians did
> 400
>   >> years
>   >>   ago but hunter gatherer societies can't support as many people as we
>   >> have
>   >>   now.  Even "back in the day", hunter gatherer societies would
> devastate
>   >>   their ecosystems and have to move on to devastate another area.  They
>   >> were
>   >>   always on the move.  That is just unsustainable with the enormous
>   >>   populations we have now.
>   >>
>   >>   Melanie
>   >>
>   >>
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