[pct-l] My plans,in a nutshell

[Paul Robison]

please don't take it as a personal attack,
as i said in my last post ... its not about your right to hunt snakes, the 
question was about calories;  it is always more efficient to just keep walking.  
the knife to kill the snake is going to weigh more than the meat you'd get form 
the snake. and at least the food the weight goes down when you eat it.

the trailpooper thing was supposed to be funny (and i stand by the fact that it 
was !)... i assume you'll bury your poop and do all the stuff good down to earth 
hikers do.

as long as you respect the laws,  we have no qualms or reason to moan about 
it.   but you can't kill snakes in the national parks, which is all but a few 
miles of the trail.  as for private land you need permission, but that might not 
be hard ot get since that area is cow country.

Fires are varied based on area ... i'm sure you'll eucate yourself on that 
closer to time as we find out how wet or dry the dessert will be.

as for all your other plans, particularly about the cancer fundraiser, all i can 
say is GOOD LUCK WITH IT. and i mean that.  it's a noble cause.  


anyways i'll see you out there,
~Paul




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From: Mike Chapman <altathunder76 at gmail.com>
To: giniajim <jplynch at crosslink.net>
Cc: Melanie Clarke <melaniekclarke at gmail.com>; Paul Robison 
<paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com>; pct-l at backcountry.net
Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011 1:45:37 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] My plans,in a nutshell

All national parks and private lands without permission are places not
legal to take rattlesnake,and thats everywhere in the US.

On 1/5/11, giniajim <jplynch at crosslink.net> wrote:
> Might depend on where you are.  If you're in a national park, you cannot
> disturb wildlife.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Mike Chapman
>   To: giniajim
>   Cc: Melanie Clarke ; Paul Robison ; pct-l at backcountry.net
>   Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 11:58 AM
>   Subject: Re: [pct-l] My plans,in a nutshell
>
>
>   Heres a little fun fact,CA fish and game says that california
>   rattlesnakes are far from endangered,not even threatened to be
>   endangered,and totally legal to take without a licence,so all were
>   really talking about is your personal moral ground,so excuse me if you
>   happen to see me eating a snake burrito.
>
>   On 1/5/11, Mike Chapman <altathunder76 at gmail.com> wrote:
>   > Just to clarify,your right Paul! Hunting snakes does take energy,but
>   > if you read my posts instead of  passing judgment,you will find that
>   > infact I am not hunting snakes!!! If I happen across one,it would be a
>   > very tasty meal for me to pass on,as well as rats and such to balance
>   > the dang ecosystem for melanie. And I said "THE REMAINS WOULD BE
>   > BURNED"(or buried),so no people affected by my meal,and thats about
>   > the only fires I plan on building(non firebug) as I will do the
>   > journey with cold food. I just didnt like when you put trailpooper in
>   > my face,and you seem to need the last word(childish). If theres a
>   > problem with my writing or alot of commas,,,,, then please cease to
>   > read. O.K. thats the last I will speak of the matter,this is a huge
>   > downer,and if this is the kind of people ill be dealing with,then
>   > thank god im going alone,Ive planned this hike for over 14 years and
>   > you cant,wont,and will never bring me down,even with your name calling
>   > e-mails,some were funny(thanks),but it shows me the lack of respect
>   > you have for others. Hike on in good health and good luck everyone.
>   >
>   > On 1/5/11, giniajim <jplynch at crosslink.net> wrote:
>   >> Read "Don Coyote"; very good explanation about the complex and
> interwoven
>   >> nature of the environment.
>   >>
>   >>   ----- Original Message -----
>   >>   From: Melanie Clarke
>   >>   To: Paul Robison
>   >>   Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
>   >>   Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:30 PM
>   >>   Subject: Re: [pct-l] My plans,in a nutshell
>   >>
>   >>
>   >>   Dear PCT,
>   >>
>   >>   We don't want to upset the delicate ecosystems.  Rattlesnakes keep
> the
>   >>   rodent population down.  You take out this valuable member and the
>   >> rodent
>   >>   population will explode.  I'm not a biologist but rodents carry
>   >> diseases,
>   >>   maybe they will destroy plant life, which could lead to erosion etc.
> I
>   >> read
>   >>   an article from the Sierra Club on how the entire ecosystem of the
>   >>   Yellowstone area was destroyed just because they killed all the
> wolves.
>   >>   Deer and Moose exploded, ate all the vegetation, I can't remember but
>   >> it
>   >>   devastated the water streams and systems.  They explained it very
>   >> clearly,
>   >> I
>   >>   should go look for it.  Anyway, after they re-introduced the wolves
> the
>   >>   balance has been almost restored after 5-10 years, again, I don't
> have
>   >> the
>   >>   exact facts but you get the idea.
>   >>
>   >>   With so many people traveling along the PCT, I don't think we should
> be
>   >>   harvesting the plant life either.  We can get food, the animals
> can't.
>   >> I
>   >>   think we should be self sustaining along the trail and not take food
>   >> from
>   >>   the wild life.  I know it's "cool" to survive like the Indians did
> 400
>   >> years
>   >>   ago but hunter gatherer societies can't support as many people as we
>   >> have
>   >>   now.  Even "back in the day", hunter gatherer societies would
> devastate
>   >>   their ecosystems and have to move on to devastate another area.  They
>   >> were
>   >>   always on the move.  That is just unsustainable with the enormous
>   >>   populations we have now.
>   >>
>   >>   Melanie
>   >>
>   >>
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