[pct-l] So. Calif. Desert Water Caches

[Kevin Cook]

That situation sounds very uncomfortable to me (having water when others
don't). I've been in this situation before in The Canyon. Most times, I've
shared what I could spare. Usually the hikers were without water out of
ignorance of the harsh conditions there, so I take pity on them. I'm not
sure how I would feel about a thru hiker putting themselves in that
position. I would want to help, but aren't we supposed to be the elite of
hikers? I'm not sure what I would do in that situation, but I know a big
part of me would not want to share. Isn't 3rd gate at the top of that
loooooong climb? LOL

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 10:30 AM, <gwschenk at socal.rr.com> wrote:

> Having the ability to carry two gallons is a good start. That worked out
> for my gf and I when we did section A a couple of years ago. I carried two
> gallons into the San Felipe Hills, others only carried 3 liters, relying on
> the water cache at Third Gate. In '06 a friend thruhiked and carried two
> gallons also into the San Felipes. When he got to Third Gate he found a
> bunch of hikers yogiing for water as the cache was empty. You can imagine
> how he felt after working hard carrying all that water up there, and they
> had carried none. I believe those others ended up having to make the long
> sidetrip to water down canyon.
>
> Gary
>
> ---- Melanie Clarke <melaniekclarke at gmail.com> wrote:
> > *
> >
> > How much water is very subjective, so it's hard to answer.
> >
> > The Canyon is one of my primary stomping grounds. Water is always an
> issue
> > there. I've hiked with many different people there, and we all need
> > different amount. I tend to need more water then a lot of people. The
> > general rule is a gallon a day, but I am much more comfortable with at
> least
> > 5, and I will often carry 6. On a recent trip, we knew our hike out would
> > require a dry camp half way to the car. I carried a little over 9 liters
> > away from the creek before beginning the climb. I drank every drop! My
> > hiking partner left the creek with only 7 or 8 liters and was fine.*
> >
> > Well, my initial reaction was to bring along a capacity for about 2
> gallons
> > of water.  7 liters is about 2 gallons so I am probably in the "heavy
> user"
> > category.  Maybe for my first run through the desert I should go with the
> 2
> > gallons or 7 liters in those dry areas indicated by Halfmile and
> Postholer
> > or was it Asabat?
> >
> > Thank you everyone,
> > Melanie
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <
> > diane at santabarbarahikes.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I don't think I could drink a liter every 3 or 4 miles. I would get
> very
> > > sick. 3 liters in a whole day, including meals, plus a liter of
> lemonade at
> > > a water source is about right. For ME.
> > >
> > > On Jan 11, 2011, at 5:11 PM, Paul Robison wrote:
> > >
> > >  i have heard several people say 3 miles per liter.
> > >>
> > >> personally i couldn't drink more than 4 miles per liter...   in
> temperate
> > >> weather i would go 2 liters for ten miles.
> > >>
> > >> ... this assumes you camp somewhere where you can drink your fill.
> > >>
> > >> one opinion of many;
> > >> make your own decisions about safety;  lack of water is no joke.  this
> is
> > >> what i
> > >> do, and not a recommendation , blah blah ; )
> > >> ~Paul
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Jan 11, 2011, at 7:22 AM, Melanie Clarke wrote:
> > >>
> > >>  Dear Diane,
> > >>>
> > >>> How much water should I bring during some of those long stretches
> > >>> of no
> > >>> water?  About 2 gallons?  I don't want to have to depend on water
> > >>> caches.
> > >>>
> > >>> Melanie
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
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