[pct-l] Fw: Judge suspends horse packing in national parks (Sequoia-Kings)

[I Discovered That By Going Out I Had Really Gone In]

We are obviously upgrading our commentary. Nice reference to "The Elements of Style", 	Mango.

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Jim & Jane Moody <moodyjj at comcast.net> wrote:

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>Mendo, 
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>Please ask Ms. Williams to take her meds (or stop taking them, as the case might be .)  What her lawyer advises about file sizes and what grizzlies are doing are not pertinent to this thread.  She might also consider reviewing Strunk & White. 
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>Thanks you. 
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>Mango 
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>From: "Edward Anderson" <mendoridered at yahoo.com> 
>To: pct-l at backcountry.net 
>Sent: Friday, April 6, 2012 5:02:45 PM 
>Subject: [pct-l] Fw: Judge suspends horse packing in national parks        (Sequoia-Kings) 
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>From: Anne Williams <touchstone at isomedia.com> 
>To: Edward Anderson <mendoridered at yahoo.com> 
>Sent: Friday, April 6, 2012 1:30 PM 
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] Judge suspends horse packing in national parks (Sequoia-Kings) 
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>Interesting, I wonder what the actual violation of 
>the Wilderness Act it. Everybody violtaes the wilderness act by crapping in the 
>widerness, and just becaue some people ae bad packes, does not mean that the 
>whole industry should be through out.  This also eliminates the strings of 
>mules and horses going into the High Sierra camps tht the park 
>runs. 
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>I wonder what what their rulling would be on 
>SERVICE ANIMALS.  I see Horses as service animals. Dogs on the other 
>hand , you can not ride and they  do not carry your gear, let 
>alone crapping evrywhere, and chasing the wildlife and barking and biting ( dogs 
>kill something like 70 people a year, and bears kill 2)  
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>for some reason , I can send files that are larger 
>than I can receive.  And I can download a file that I can not recieve by 
>email.  My lawyer tells me that they subscribe to service where they can 
>send emails with attached files, and their lients can go to the service to 
>download a file which they could not recieve through email. 
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>I find it really alarming that the Wilderness act 
>does not allow traditional  activities in the park.  These are parks, 
>not wilderness areas, but they both have the same operable model - their model 
>does not include people as part of the ecosystem.  the wildernesss is 
>supposed to be kept as if there were no people or no impacts from people.  
>This is not the real world , but a view of utopia.  I think that anytime 
>laws are put in place for unrelaistic ends, and to keep utopia, they will 
>untimately fail.  This s a prime example.    
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>I would bet that the very arguments that have been 
>set forth in this case, could be used to prevent people from using the park as 
>well.  And around here we have the Great Bear  Recovery program.  
>They want to "recover" the grizzly bears although sitings of grizzlies are as 
>common as bigfoot sigtings. and what few sightings there are are residents 
>of canada coming a few miles across the border.  Yet although there is not 
>a grizzly for haundreds of square miles, there are trails close by that are now 
>abandoned becasue the Grizzley Bear folk sdemanded that roads and trails be 
>abandoned to make an area for the nonexistent bears where they would not be 
>disturbed.  It is the same thing- what have to protect this over here so we 
>have to eliminate horses and people.  they want to make the people areas 
>unconnected ( contained), and small  - like a museun with lots of 
>"keep on the trail" signs and  keep the rest "natural" for the 
>wildlife.  a lot o fthe connector trails arond Mrtt Baker have been 
>abandoned, and it is evendifficult to gt to them, and the small people areas are 
>so over used and permitted that it is alarming.  The people do not have 
>poor wilderness skills, the parks have poor management 
>skills. 
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