[pct-l] Water Cache at Scissors Xing

Gail Van Velzer vanvelzer at charter.net
Wed Apr 23 20:31:31 CDT 2014


I think moving the cache would be a good idea as a first option.
Gail
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Graybill" <rgraybill44 at gmail.com>
To: "Timothy Nye" <timpnye at gmail.com>
Cc: "PCT" <pct-l at backcountry.net>; "Brick Robbins" <brick at brickrobbins.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Water Cache at Scissors Xing


>I have written to Larry, who lives near Scissors Crossing and maintained
> the water cache under the bridge at Scissors Crossing about the 
> possibility
> of moving the cache to the north side of S2, a little way up the dry wash
> that leads from that upper parking lot up to the trail. We'll see what he
> thinks. That location would not be visible from that upper parking lot, 
> and
> it would not appeal to local teens, weekend bikers or 4 wheelers as a 
> place
> to hang out and drink beer.  The water might get hot, but at least it 
> would
> be wet and help hikers make it to 3rd Gate. Of course, if the trash 
> problem
> is created by hikers, this solution might not help.  Ron "Slo Charger"
> Graybill
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Timothy Nye <timpnye at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I attended the annual meeting of the PCTA this month. After the meeting I
>> asked, privately, how many permits had been issued this year. This
>> information is not being released.  I can imagine what this means, both 
>> for
>> Scissors and further up the trail.
>>
>> This trash can very well be due to hikers. We need everyone on trail to
>> put on their "big boy/girl pants/skirts/kilts". The problem as I see it, 
>> is
>> that this influx of hikers this year by and large didn't get to 
>> experience
>> the trail in an uncrowded state as most previous years hikers did,
>> relatively speaking of course.
>>
>> I don't know how a sense of responsibility can be communicated, but the
>> loss of caches may well serve to limit numbers assuming most don't just
>> hitch around the dry parts.
>>
>> Scissors crossing
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> > On Apr 23, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Brick Robbins <brick at brickrobbins.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Eric Lee <saintgimp at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> I have no idea what's *actually* going on at Scissors Crossing but 
>> >> with
>> ~50
>> >> thrus per day in that area right now,
>> >
>> > 350 a week? really? Over 1000 in this 3 week prime period alone?
>> >
>> > Is the PCT already reaching these levels?
>> >
>> > I'm not out there so I don't know, but that seems like an awful lot.
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