[pct-l] Section hikers need advice re: starting north of Sonora Pass in early- or mid-May
robert
bobbilbo at msn.com
Fri Mar 13 14:14:43 CDT 2015
Bling and Strog,
It is too early to tell whether conditions starting north of Sonora Pass will be sufficiently snow-free by mid-May for what you're prepared to deal with. If you are trained to travel in snow and properly equipped then you should be able to start there that early. If not you should have a backup plan and defer the decision whether to start at Sonora until after May 1.
A decent sense of what's still on the ground (whether at Sonora or somewhere north of Tahoe) can be obtained from PCTA's detailed trail map with the "Snow Depth" overlay. This is a satellite-based product so it will give you a derived, blurred (ie averaged over sensor pixels) picture, but when considered over large patches of ground gives pretty good estimates.
Bob/Bilbo Livezey
> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 17:24:26 -0700
> From: Brian Westlander <brian.westlander at gmail.com>
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] Section hikers need advice re: starting north of
> Sonora Pass in early- or mid-May
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> Hi All, my wife and I hiked from Campo to Sonora Pass in 2008, and we're
> now planning to do another long section this year. We only have a few
> months available to hike: May - July. We'd like to start as close to Sonora
> Pass as possible and continue hiking north.
>
> (1) Do any of you experienced folks know what we'll likely encounter if we
> start in early- to mid-May at Sonora Pass, considering the fairly dry
> winter we've had?
>
> (2) To avoid more snow and ice, should we instead start further north?
> E.g., start at Sierra City or Belden, and then come back down south later
> in the season to hike the section just north of Sonora Pass.
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> - Bling and Strog
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 06:29:27 -0700
> From: Scott <scott at gnarlyriver.com>
> To: "Dan C. aka Thumper" <dofdear at cox.net>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Hip Belt Recommendation
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> Thumper,
>
> Checkout these, you could possibly add them to the original belt?
>
> http://www.zpacks.com/accessories/beltpouch.shtml
>
> only 1.5 oz for the pair
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 6:12 PM, Dan C. aka Thumper <dofdear at cox.net> wrote:
>
> > Really enjoy my Granite Gear Meridian Vapor Backpack - 52L backpack except
> > for the lack of one feature, hip belt pockets. For me it is a great fit,
> > comfortable even with a bear can. I've tried several different
> > arrangements to mitigate the lack of hip belt pockets including a slip on
> > set of pockets, the GG accessory pockets and a fanny pack worn up front.
> > The fanny pack works best from a functional stand point but none was
> > really satisfactory.
> >
> > The other day I was in REI and spied a hip belt off of REI's Crestrail
> > pack. The belt fit into the GG pack although snugly.
> >
> > Out of the box the GG pack is 46 oz. / 1304 grams. Swapping out the belts
> > increases the pack weight by 5.25 oz / 150 grams for a total pack weight of
> > 51.25 oz / 1453 grams. Is this a good trade off? Or should I be looking
> > for a different pack? Can any one suggest another hip belt that would fit
> > and have pockets for less weight?
> >
> > Thumper
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> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 01:59:22 -0700
> From: Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
> To: PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>, "Hiker97 at aol.com" <Hiker97 at aol.com>,
> Gail Van Velzer <vanvelzer at charter.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] Powdered Alcohol...Dehydrated Water & Mexican Water
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> Gail Wrote:
> Can I get some dehydrated water to go with my powdered alcohol?
> ...............................................................
>
> Yes you can Gail,....you can even do better.
> See my below 2008 post.
> BTW......Gail, are you planing on hiking or riding the PCT?
>
> JMT Reinhold
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> [pct-l] ''MEXICAN WATER''
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> Hi gang,
> I'm back....by popular demand, for a limited time only....to warn you of
> a Switchback trick to scam $1,400 from the KO organizers with his
> promise to demo dehydrated water at the KO, like he tried a couple years
> ago.....do not be fooled by that scoundrel.
>
> First of all, there is nothing new about dehydrated water....JMT
> Reinhold invented dehydrated water some time ago.
> Second......I have since invented Phase II Dehydrated Water called
> ''MEXICAN WATER.''
> MEXICAN WATER is far superior to plain dehydrated water and comes in 3
> refreshing flavors.....Margarita, Tequila and Montezuma's Revenge.
> Just add water and you have instant, refreshing, thirst quenching
> MEXICAN WATER vs Switchback's plain, stale dehydrated water.
> Also, MEXICAN WATER is calorie fortified vs none in plain dehydrated water.
> Therefore, since a hiker can satisfy his calorie needs by drinking lots
> of MEXICAN WATER, he can lighten his pack weight by eliminating most or
> all his food and at the same time greatly reduce the risk of dehydration.
>
> Yes, MEXICAN WATER is truly a hikers dream come true.
>
> It also has been reported that hikers who drink MEXICAN WATER appear
> to be happier campers, singing and yodeling while hiking and shouting
> ''Ohhlee'' till the whee hours in the morning.
>
> Due to high demand place your order for MEXICAN WATER immediately, to
> assure delivery in time for the KO.
>
> REMEMBER.....Switchback is not an authorized distributor.....place all
> your orders through JMT Reinhold to assure authentic MEXICAN WATER.
>
> JMT Reinhold
> Authorized distributor of MEXICAN WATER.......Ohhlee !!!
>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 00:34:33 -0700
> From: Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
> To: PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>, "Hiker97 at aol.com" <Hiker97 at aol.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Homeless vs Thru-Hiker
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> Say Switchback,
> Did you ever wonder how you can tell a "Homeless" from a "Thru-hiker"?
> I know, I know, Goretex is the usual answer because no self respecting
> homeless will ever wear Goretex.
>
> Sometime ago, I stopped at a Burger King and noticed a guy asking for
> handouts.
> I usually don't give them money, because I figure they will just buy
> more wine which is not good but , instead, I buy an extra burger for
> them which, I figure, will do them some good.
> Well, this guy really looked bad I mean he looked filthy, wore dirty
> grubby cloth and just had that malnourished and far away look in his eyes.
> I said to myself, boy this guy really is "down & out".....I've never
> seen a "Homeless" look that bad.
> So I took pity on him and handed him a bag with a burger and a twenty
> in it.
> He took the bag but didn't really say anything or show much appreciation.
>
> Well, as I left I noticed, not far from him, a backpack and trekking poles.
> I said to myself, geee, I never saw a "Homeless" with trekking poles.
> Then it dawned on me.......that is not a "Homeless" that is a "Thru-hiker".
>
> So you see, besides "Gortex," this is how you tell a "Homeless" from a
> "Thru-hiker"......Homeless are usually cleaner, better dressed, less
> malnourished and more normal looking.
> BTW...they also always appreciate hand outs and assistance and never
> take them for granted,
> like a few of our "Thru-hiker" friends do.
>
> JMT Reinhold
> Your normal looking trail companion
>
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> Message: 16
> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 11:01:36 -0400
> From: hiker97 at aol.com
> To: reinholdmetzger at cox.net, pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Homeless vs Thru-Hiker
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> Snow Bunny JMT Unsupported Reinhold wrote: So you see, besides "Gortex," this is how you tell a "Homeless" from a "Thru-hiker"......Homeless are usually cleaner, better dressed, less
> malnourished and more normal looking. BTW...they also always appreciate hand outs and assistance and never take them for granted, like a few of our "Thru-hiker" friends do.
> --------------------------------------
> Switchback replies: Unfortunately, I think you are right about too many hikers not being polite or grateful for help along the trail. I think it has something to do with our "you owe me" society today. Also, I think that Trail Angels dropping out of the community has something to do with this attitude of entitlement. Very sad.
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