[cdt-l] cdt-l Digest, Vol 47, Issue 6

Kris Wagner kris at kriswagner.net
Thu Sep 13 10:30:25 CDT 2007

Skot, et al,
Your note deserves a response, and an apology. Here at Backpacker, we've
been doing our best to keep the CDT mapping project going despite a major
unexpected change in our lives this spring and summer. As some of you know,
Backpacker was sold to a new publisher and moved from Pennsylvania to
Boulder. While this is a very good thing for the magazine in the long run,
it has interrupted almost every aspect of the business, including our
ability to put staff in the field, acquire gear to give away to
participants, and ship the hundreds of items we'd hoped to send out. 
Since the middle of May, our staff has undergone almost a complete overhaul.
About 50% of them decided not to make the move to Colorado, and the other
50% were left with the enormous task of putting out monthly issues, finding
new staff, and physically moving the office--all while moving our own
possessions and kids to new houses and schools. It's not been an easy time,
and unfortunately we've had to delay some aspects of projects that are very
dear to us.
We're not looking to offer excuses here, just an explanation. We fully
intend to honor our promise to reward our CDT volunteers -- both in print
and with gear. We hope this note helps you understand our situation, Skot;
it pains us to think that our delays or lack of communication have
disappointed you so much that you'd actually wish injury upon us.
The good news is that we're settled in Colorado now and ready to tackle the
t-shirts and socks and other giveaways. And the really good news is
that--despite the magazine's sale and a bunch of wildfires that got in our
way--our CDT teams have managed to map more than 2,000 miles of the trail
this summer! Through it all, the most important and valuable part of this
project--mapping the trail--hasn't suffered. Real progress has been made,
and will continue to be made next summer.
Kris Wagner, Map Editor
Jonathan Dorn, Editor-in-Chief  

-----Original Message-----
From: cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
On Behalf Of Skot Phrea
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:01 PM
To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [cdt-l] cdt-l Digest, Vol 47, Issue 6

Thanks for your input. It has been called to my attention that Backpacker 
has changed ownership at least once in the past year and a half. But in my 
opinion it does not justify ignoring correspondence and backing up their 
commitments.  I predict that we will be seeing and smelling those disgusting

cologne samples in the near future. Happy Trails !!!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "glen fleag" <fiddleheadpa at hotmail.com>
To: <cdt-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: [cdt-l] cdt-l Digest, Vol 47, Issue 6

> Doesnt surprise me one bit.
> I found out a while ago where there loyalties lie.
> They only print letters to the editor that are positive.
> They advertise for mtn bikes and 4 wheelers and motorcycles in their mag.
> I sent them a letter expressing my opinions on the need for the CDT to be
> placed in wilderness areas when this project started.   They never 
> returned
> a reply!
> I seriously believe they would prefer the CDT to be opened to bikers (both
> man-powered and engine-powered), 4 wheelers and even jeeps (yes they are
> advertised in their rag too)
> they care much more about the dollar than they do about backpackers.
> Shame on them!
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>>Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:00:11 -0500
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>>Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 07:53:14 -0500
>>From: "Skot Phrea" <skotphrea at hctc.net>
>>Subject: [cdt-l] Backpacker Magazine C.D.T. Project
>>To: <cdt-l at backcountry.net>
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>>Howdy Folks ! Backpacker Magazine did not do anything that they said they
>>would. There was no gear, no G.P.S.units or training, They said that we
>>would get socks , wrong ! All they came through with was 1 bag of trail 
>>, 1 single serving of peanut butter, and a pack of candy. There was only
>>one set of maps that our team leader received.I do not go into wilderness
>>without my own maps ! ( I could have brought my own if only backpacker or
>>our team leader would have communicated with me ). Our team leader didn't
>>return my calls and had a bad attitude. I had to have a benefit to raise
>>the money to go on this trip as that I have A.I.D.S and am compelled to
>>live on my S.S.I. I feel like a sucker for buying into their lies, One lie
>>backing up another for the entire fiasco. The thing that confuses me most
>>is wondering why they made it sound like we won a contest and in reality 
>>won nothing at all. Why couldn't they have been honest from the start ? 
>>likes to be lied to ? This
>>  whole situation has left me broke, depressed and mistrustful . I bet 
>> that
>>Jonathan Dorn makes more in a month than I do in a year. I wonder how he
>>would feel if the tables were turned ? I wouldn't wish H.I.V. on anyone 
>>it would not hurt my feelings if he fell off a mountain on his expensive
>>mountain bike. I am canceling my subscription to their feculent rag and I
>>intend on calling and writing their advertisers informing them of this
>>publications ethical bankruptcy . BACKPACKER MAGAZINE AND MR. DORN, YOU
>>SUCK !!!
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