[Cdt-l] Border Patrol notification

Hikertrash hikertrash at gmail.com
Thu Mar 26 20:24:38 CDT 2009

Looks like a shot and a beer in Palomas before or after the CDT may have 
to wait until the violence dies down.


Eric Whte wrote:
> Last May while on the CDT in the boot heel region, I found the BP to 
> be very  helpful. Even though they never asked me for any 
> identification, they knew exactly who I was and where I was going. 
> They even located another hiker for me - again without asking me many 
> questions - they had followed his tire tracks down an access road to 
> the CDT just west of highway 81 when I thought he was east of 81 near 
> a shaded windmill awaiting my arrival. If you don't call ahead you can 
> be sure they will stop by, say hello and ask in a very 
> non-confrontational way if they can be of assistance. I would estimate 
> that about 50% of the moving vehicles along highway 81 south of 
> Hachita were BP, most of the others were ranchers & locals driving 
> white pick-up trucks. Eric White more details on 
> http://www.trailjournals.com/entry.cfm?trailname=7618 in the journal 
> and photo sections
> --- On *Thu, 3/26/09, Bob /<BobandShell97 at verizon.net>/* wrote:
>     From: Bob <BobandShell97 at verizon.net>
>     Subject: [Cdt-l] Border Patrol notification
>     To: "Cdt-L" <cdt-l at backcountry.net>
>     Date: Thursday, March 26, 2009, 12:21 PM
>     I just got off the phone with the Border Patrol in Lordsburg
>     (575-542-3221).  I was checking to see if all the national news
>     about increased “border” violence in the urban areas in Texas and
>     Arizona should be of concern as one started hiking the CDT from
>     Crazy Cook.  We talked at length and the officer knew exactly
>     where Crazy Cook was.  Here are his points:  1) As a courtesy to
>     the BP, please check in with them before you hike, either by phone
>     or in person in Lordsburg.  He said they will KNOW we are out
>     there, but this basically is to keep them from having to stop and
>     check us multiple times, especially at night. He asked that your
>     contact with them is best just as you start and not weeks ahead. 
>      2) He flatly stated that there is no appreciable increased hazard
>     where we will be.  It’s an urban thing right now.  He felt we
>     should not be overly concerned.  3) At the fence, we WILL be
>     observed from the other side, at a distance, by some “bad types,”
>     but their interest is just making sure no OTHER illegal group is
>     trying to enter Mexico with a shipment of drugs. 
>     Turf-protection.  They stay on their side and will leave us
>     alone.  We probably won’t even be aware of their presence, again,
>     at a distance. 3) As we hiked, anyone involved with the drug trade
>     on OUR side of the fence would not approach us, he said, and, in
>     fact, will do all they can to avoid us and not be seen.  The only
>     ones who might approach are those (like occasionally on the PCT in
>     S CA) who might ask for any water we can spare.  4) The BP
>     presence is thorough, night and day.  He chuckled that even if we
>     didn’t check in with them, they would definitely know we were
>     there, implying that their electronic surveillance is pretty good.
>     It was a reassuring phone call. 
>     Dr Bob
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