[Cdt-l] Custom POIs

Eric White ericshawwhite at yahoo.com
Sat Mar 29 06:40:53 CDT 2014

Map & Compass? Mini Mart

 From: Larry Swearingen <larry.swearingen at frontier.com>
To: Mary Kwart <mkwart at gci.net>; cdt-l at backcountry.net 
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 6:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] Custom POIs

Hi Mary,
I agree that this Garmin GPS thing gets really frustrating sometimes.
I think the only reason that I’ve sort of “figured it out” is that I 
insanely stubborn.   {:>)
It appears that I have a mix of Way Points and Custom POIs loaded.
At least when I select Waypoint Manager the WPs show up but only
up through Segment 17-@@@@.
From there north I’ll have to rely on the POIs that I have loaded.
To get to my POIs I select Where to>Extras> A List of all Custom POI 
This takes me to a list of all the POIs for the Bear Creek “Official 
There’s also a NM_ALTB  that is the Alternate Routes POIs.  Like 
GR_   Ghost Ranch
or PT_   Pie Town route.  When you select one of these POIs 
it’ll take you to the Map
Where all the POIs and Waypoints show up.
Alternatively if you Select one of the POIs it will take you to the map and 
you can press the Menu Button
and select “Review Point” you will see the Infomation Page for that 
I also have Tracks loaded for the Alternates AND the whole CDNST.  At 
this time I can’t
remember where I got those.
I loaded the Custom POIs through Base Camp and it sent them to my removable 
mini SD Card
in the gps.
Larry Swearingen
From: Mary Kwart 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 10:16 PM
To: cdt-l at backcountry.net 
Subject: [Cdt-l] Custom POIs
am hiking the New Mexico section of the CDT this spring. I use a Garmin etrex 30 
and loaded the Bear Creek CDT POIs for New Mexico using POI loader into my GPS 
internal memory. I bought a Garmin map card last year for Arizona and New Mexico 
and didn't want to have to buy more maps or go through the hassle of downloading 
free maps to the internal memory. So I was stuck with using only the internal 
memory to save CDT data.

This is just an FYI--something I didn't know 
about custom POIs: you can't access them through the "All POIS" choice, but have 
to go through "Where to"--"Extras" to select them from the first menu choices. 
On top of that--all of the POIs will not show up (which made me paranoid). This 
is because, unlike Waypoints, the GPS will only let you scroll through the 
custom POIs that are closest to your present location. SO--I only could scroll 
through BC segment 19 POIs. I thought the rest of the POIs were not there. Base 
Camp showed them as being in my internal memory, though.  There is no 
documentation for this in the etrex owner's manual. I called Garmin support and 
found out that you can only directly scroll through the custom POIs closest to 
your present location. SO--segment 19 was closest to my location in Oregon. The 
other POIs were in the GPS, just not displayed for me to scroll 

To see the rest of your custom POIs on your GPS you have to 
select "Where to", then hit the menu button and use the "search near" function 
to choose a waypoint, map point, or recent find to allow your GPS to display 
custom POIs that are not near your current location. SO--my paranoia has 
resulted in new knowledge for me.

Oh yeah--the BC POIs for New Mexico 
appear to be less than 2000. So the waypoins for NM should be able to be loaded 
without turning them into POIs--useful for those only doing NM now. I am too 
burned out on dealing with my GPS to try this, but may before I leave for Tucson 
(April 7). Waypoints are a lot easier to deal with than POIs--they display on 
your GPS map without having to query each one individually. I told the Garmin 
support guy that there should be some way a user of POI loader or Basecamp can 
know how many points are in the file before they download it to their GPS. POI 
Loader tells you how many POIs are downloaded only after you down load the file 
to your GPS. Basecamp doesn't tell you anything at all. If anyone knows anything 
different please tell me. When I talked to the Garmin support guy, he admitted 
that they are ill equipped to deal with the needs of long distance hikers who 
use thousands of waypoints. One Garmin support guy didn't even know what custom 
POIs were.

I can feel people's eyes glazing over at this, but the devil 
is in the details, as usual. It will be a relief to actually get on the 


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