[Cdt-l] Cdt-l Digest, Vol 65, Issue 13

[Bob McCullough]

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On Feb 12, 2013 9:45 AM, <cdt-l-request at backcountry.net> wrote:

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>    1. Re: waypoints Sam Huges water Caches? (Doug Carlson)
>    2. Re: waypoints Sam Huges water Caches? (Doug Carlson)
>    3. Re: waypoints Sam Huges water Caches? (bcss at bresnan.net)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 19:49:27 -0700
> From: "Doug Carlson" <doug-sue at centurylink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water Caches?
> To: "'Frank Gilliland'" <frankgilliland at gmail.com>
> Cc: Cdt-l at backcountry.net
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> Frank, Everyone else,
>
> Are the water caches shown on the BLM like Frank gave below the same caches
> as those used by Sam Hughes?
>
> If so, I am not able to connect the waypoints for the caches in the
> bearcreek waypoints and those given the link below- or am I just reading
> the
> info incorrectly?
>
> I hope I don't weary all you CDT veterans with all these questions.
>
> It has been over 10 years now since i last used long/lat in a much simplier
> GPS then the Etrex30 I am now playing with.
>
> This is getting more interesting all the time.
>
> -Trew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Frank Gilliland
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 6:00 PM
> To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: [Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water Caches?
>
> Yep, like Jerry says..check out his web site and download all the data you
> can digest...
>
> also one more Google search for:   water new mexico cdt
>
> brought up the number two link of:
> http://www.blm.gov/nm/st/en/prog/recreation/continental_divide_nst.html
>
> Click on the pdf link in the topic box of "Water" and you even have
> pictures...
>
> "Stay Thirsty, my Friends..."
>
> StarMan
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 20:15:12 -0700
> From: "Doug Carlson" <doug-sue at centurylink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water Caches?
> To: <bcss at bresnan.net>
> Cc: Cdt-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <000a01ce08cf$2cec28d0$86c47a70$@net>
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>
> So is the new trail between Omega and Pie Town now in place?
>
>
>
> I would love to hike it.
>
>
>
> following US-60 into AZ it drops south before making its way into Phoenix
> and passes through my area about 19 miles north of where I live in
> Florence.
> US-60 is a very scenic route but I am not really interested in walking any
> more of it than necessary.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: bcss at bresnan.net [mailto:bcss at bresnan.net]
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 6:22 PM
> To: 'Doug Carlson'; Cdt-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: RE: [Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water Caches?
>
>
>
> One of the big goals of the CDT is to be non-motorized.  That is why the
> new
> route was developed ? to put hikers on trail instead of road.   Good news
> is
> that the route will eventually include new trail from near Omega connecting
> to Pietown, so that town will always be part of the trail.  I have done
> both
> the new trail and the road walk and the new trail is definitely nicer.  If
> I
> were doing the trail for the first time I think I would hike to Omega then
> follow the highway to Pietown.   There is new trail planned from Pietown to
> the Malpais that will be spectacular.
>
>
>
> best wishes,
>
>
>
> Jerry Brown
>
> (970) 403-3527    Cell: (970) 749-0496
>
> mailto:bcss at bresnan.net
>
> www.bearcreeksurvey.com
>
>
>
> From: Doug Carlson [mailto:doug-sue at centurylink.net]
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 5:54 PM
> To: Cdt-l at backcountry.net
> Cc: bcss at bresnan.net
> Subject: RE: [Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water Caches?
>
>
>
> Jerry, your  reference to the bearcreek maps and waypoints are a big help.
>
>
>
> Those waypoints should get me to Silver City with no problem.
>
>
>
> >From there I want to go up through the heart of the Gila Wilderness via
> Doc
> Campbells and on to Pie Town.  I can't imagine the official route moving
> away from Pie Town unless there was a really really good reason.  I have
> looked forward to carrying a pack into Pie Town and eating pie for a long
> time.
>
>
>
> I am feeling more confident  about this trip all the time.
>
>
>
> Side note:  with new gear, maps, food, mailing, travel, a long hike isn't
> cheap.  Can't wait to get going.
>
>
>
> -Trew
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of bcss at bresnan.net
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 1:10 PM
> To: Cdt-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water Caches?
>
>
>
> Trew,
>
>
>
> Free waypoint files for the entire CDT (which include the cache boxes) are
> available here:  www.bearcreeksurvey.com
>
>
>
> Take the Waypoints link on the main page and you will end up on a page
> where
> you can download them. They were all collected with professional grade gps
> and are quite accurate. There are 6972 waypoints in all for the entire
> trail
> route, average spacing a little over ? mile.  They only apply to the
> official USFS/BLM route for the CDNST so for the many possible alternate
> hikes such as the Gila River, Winds, or Anaconda cutoff they won?t help,
> but
> most of the time you will likely be on the official route.  I think Frank?s
> G?s website may have some helpful data for the alternates.
> https://www.sites.google.com/site/frankgilliland/cdt
>
>
>
> The Mapbooks are spiral bound collections of 1?=3000? scale hiker maps that
> show the official route and all of the waypoints with a high level of
> accuracy. There is information about them on the front page of the
> bearcreek
> website.
>
>
>
> These are the Waypoint names for the Water Boxes between Crazy Cook and
> Lordsburg:
>
>
>
> 01_137WT
>
> 01_255WT
>
> 02_194WT
>
> 03_127WT
>
> 04_198WT
>
>
>
> There is a considerable amount of water in there in addition to the boxes.
> (Farm ponds and watering tanks)  Any waypoint that ends in ?WT? is a place
> we found water.  I would suggest always carrying more than you anticipate
> needing in there in case one of them is dry or non functional.  If you plan
> for 20 miles between water sources you could do the entire thing just using
> the cache boxes.
>
>
>
>
>
> best wishes,
>
>
>
> Jerry Brown
>
> mailto:bcss at bresnan.net
>
> www.bearcreeksurvey.com
>
>
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> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 07:44:02 -0700
> From: <bcss at bresnan.net>
> Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water Caches?
> To: "'Doug Carlson'" <doug-sue at centurylink.net>
> Cc: Cdt-l at backcountry.net
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>
> Omega to Pietown is not built yet.  You would have to walk along the
> highway.
>
>
>
> best wishes,
>
>
>
> Jerry Brown
>
>  <mailto:bcss at bresnan.net> mailto:bcss at bresnan.net
>
> www.bearcreeksurvey.com
>
>
>
> From: Doug Carlson [mailto:doug-sue at centurylink.net]
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 8:15 PM
> To: bcss at bresnan.net
> Cc: Cdt-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: RE: [Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water Caches?
>
>
>
> So is the new trail between Omega and Pie Town now in place?
>
>
>
> I would love to hike it.
>
>
>
> following US-60 into AZ it drops south before making its way into Phoenix
> and passes through my area about 19 miles north of where I live in
> Florence.
> US-60 is a very scenic route but I am not really interested in walking any
> more of it than necessary.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: bcss at bresnan.net [mailto:bcss at bresnan.net]
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 6:22 PM
> To: 'Doug Carlson'; Cdt-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: RE: [Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water Caches?
>
>
>
> One of the big goals of the CDT is to be non-motorized.  That is why the
> new
> route was developed ? to put hikers on trail instead of road.   Good news
> is
> that the route will eventually include new trail from near Omega connecting
> to Pietown, so that town will always be part of the trail.  I have done
> both
> the new trail and the road walk and the new trail is definitely nicer.  If
> I
> were doing the trail for the first time I think I would hike to Omega then
> follow the highway to Pietown.   There is new trail planned from Pietown to
> the Malpais that will be spectacular.
>
>
>
> best wishes,
>
>
>
> Jerry Brown
>
> (970) 403-3527    Cell: (970) 749-0496
>
> mailto:bcss at bresnan.net
>
> www.bearcreeksurvey.com
>
>
>
> From: Doug Carlson [mailto:doug-sue at centurylink.net]
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 5:54 PM
> To: Cdt-l at backcountry.net
> Cc: bcss at bresnan.net
> Subject: RE: [Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water Caches?
>
>
>
> Jerry, your  reference to the bearcreek maps and waypoints are a big help.
>
>
>
> Those waypoints should get me to Silver City with no problem.
>
>
>
> >From there I want to go up through the heart of the Gila Wilderness via
> Doc
> Campbells and on to Pie Town.  I can't imagine the official route moving
> away from Pie Town unless there was a really really good reason.  I have
> looked forward to carrying a pack into Pie Town and eating pie for a long
> time.
>
>
>
> I am feeling more confident  about this trip all the time.
>
>
>
> Side note:  with new gear, maps, food, mailing, travel, a long hike isn't
> cheap.  Can't wait to get going.
>
>
>
> -Trew
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of bcss at bresnan.net
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 1:10 PM
> To: Cdt-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water Caches?
>
>
>
> Trew,
>
>
>
> Free waypoint files for the entire CDT (which include the cache boxes) are
> available here:  www.bearcreeksurvey.com
>
>
>
> Take the Waypoints link on the main page and you will end up on a page
> where
> you can download them. They were all collected with professional grade gps
> and are quite accurate. There are 6972 waypoints in all for the entire
> trail
> route, average spacing a little over ? mile.  They only apply to the
> official USFS/BLM route for the CDNST so for the many possible alternate
> hikes such as the Gila River, Winds, or Anaconda cutoff they won?t help,
> but
> most of the time you will likely be on the official route.  I think Frank?s
> G?s website may have some helpful data for the alternates.
> https://www.sites.google.com/site/frankgilliland/cdt
>
>
>
> The Mapbooks are spiral bound collections of 1?=3000? scale hiker maps that
> show the official route and all of the waypoints with a high level of
> accuracy. There is information about them on the front page of the
> bearcreek
> website.
>
>
>
> These are the Waypoint names for the Water Boxes between Crazy Cook and
> Lordsburg:
>
>
>
> 01_137WT
>
> 01_255WT
>
> 02_194WT
>
> 03_127WT
>
> 04_198WT
>
>
>
> There is a considerable amount of water in there in addition to the boxes.
> (Farm ponds and watering tanks)  Any waypoint that ends in ?WT? is a place
> we found water.  I would suggest always carrying more than you anticipate
> needing in there in case one of them is dry or non functional.  If you plan
> for 20 miles between water sources you could do the entire thing just using
> the cache boxes.
>
>
>
>
>
> best wishes,
>
>
>
> Jerry Brown
>
> mailto:bcss at bresnan.net
>
> www.bearcreeksurvey.com
>
>
>
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