[Cdt-l] Cdt-l Digest, Vol 65, Issue 13
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It came through to us.
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: waypoints Sam Huges water Caches? (Doug Carlson)
2. Re: waypoints Sam Huges water Caches? (Doug Carlson)
3. Re: waypoints Sam Huges water Caches? (bcss at bresnan.net)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 19:49:27 -0700
From: "Doug Carlson" <doug-sue at centurylink.net>
Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water Caches?
To: "'Frank Gilliland'" <frankgilliland at gmail.com>
Cc: Cdt-l at backcountry.net
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Frank, Everyone else,
Are the water caches shown on the BLM like Frank gave below the same caches
as those used by Sam Hughes?
If so, I am not able to connect the waypoints for the caches in the
bearcreek waypoints and those given the link below- or am I just reading the
info incorrectly?
I hope I don't weary all you CDT veterans with all these questions.
It has been over 10 years now since i last used long/lat in a much simplier
GPS then the Etrex30 I am now playing with.
This is getting more interesting all the time.
-Trew
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From: cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
On Behalf Of Frank Gilliland
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 6:00 PM
To: cdt-l at backcountry.net
Subject: [Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water Caches?
Yep, like Jerry says..check out his web site and download all the data you
can digest...
also one more Google search for: water new mexico cdt
brought up the number two link of:
http://www.blm.gov/nm/st/en/prog/recreation/continental_divide_nst.html
Click on the pdf link in the topic box of "Water" and you even have
pictures...
"Stay Thirsty, my Friends..."
StarMan
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 20:15:12 -0700
From: "Doug Carlson" <doug-sue at centurylink.net>
Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water Caches?
To: <bcss at bresnan.net>
Cc: Cdt-l at backcountry.net
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So is the new trail between Omega and Pie Town now in place?
I would love to hike it.
following US-60 into AZ it drops south before making its way into Phoenix
and passes through my area about 19 miles north of where I live in Florence.
US-60 is a very scenic route but I am not really interested in walking any
more of it than necessary.
From: bcss at bresnan.net [mailto:bcss at bresnan.net]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 6:22 PM
To: 'Doug Carlson'; Cdt-l at backcountry.net
Subject: RE: [Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water Caches?
One of the big goals of the CDT is to be non-motorized. That is why the new
route was developed ? to put hikers on trail instead of road. Good news is
that the route will eventually include new trail from near Omega connecting
to Pietown, so that town will always be part of the trail. I have done both
the new trail and the road walk and the new trail is definitely nicer. If I
were doing the trail for the first time I think I would hike to Omega then
follow the highway to Pietown. There is new trail planned from Pietown to
the Malpais that will be spectacular.
best wishes,
Jerry Brown
(970) 403-3527 Cell: (970) 749-0496
mailto:bcss at bresnan.net
www.bearcreeksurvey.com
From: Doug Carlson [mailto:doug-sue at centurylink.net]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 5:54 PM
To: Cdt-l at backcountry.net
Cc: bcss at bresnan.net
Subject: RE: [Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water Caches?
Jerry, your reference to the bearcreek maps and waypoints are a big help.
Those waypoints should get me to Silver City with no problem.
>From there I want to go up through the heart of the Gila Wilderness via Doc
Campbells and on to Pie Town. I can't imagine the official route moving
away from Pie Town unless there was a really really good reason. I have
looked forward to carrying a pack into Pie Town and eating pie for a long
time.
I am feeling more confident about this trip all the time.
Side note: with new gear, maps, food, mailing, travel, a long hike isn't
cheap. Can't wait to get going.
-Trew
From: cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
On Behalf Of bcss at bresnan.net
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 1:10 PM
To: Cdt-l at backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water Caches?
Trew,
Free waypoint files for the entire CDT (which include the cache boxes) are
available here: www.bearcreeksurvey.com
Take the Waypoints link on the main page and you will end up on a page where
you can download them. They were all collected with professional grade gps
and are quite accurate. There are 6972 waypoints in all for the entire trail
route, average spacing a little over ? mile. They only apply to the
official USFS/BLM route for the CDNST so for the many possible alternate
hikes such as the Gila River, Winds, or Anaconda cutoff they won?t help, but
most of the time you will likely be on the official route. I think Frank?s
G?s website may have some helpful data for the alternates.
https://www.sites.google.com/site/frankgilliland/cdt
The Mapbooks are spiral bound collections of 1?=3000? scale hiker maps that
show the official route and all of the waypoints with a high level of
accuracy. There is information about them on the front page of the bearcreek
website.
These are the Waypoint names for the Water Boxes between Crazy Cook and
Lordsburg:
01_137WT
01_255WT
02_194WT
03_127WT
04_198WT
There is a considerable amount of water in there in addition to the boxes.
(Farm ponds and watering tanks) Any waypoint that ends in ?WT? is a place
we found water. I would suggest always carrying more than you anticipate
needing in there in case one of them is dry or non functional. If you plan
for 20 miles between water sources you could do the entire thing just using
the cache boxes.
best wishes,
Jerry Brown
mailto:bcss at bresnan.net
www.bearcreeksurvey.com
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Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 07:44:02 -0700
From: <bcss at bresnan.net>
Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water Caches?
To: "'Doug Carlson'" <doug-sue at centurylink.net>
Cc: Cdt-l at backcountry.net
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Omega to Pietown is not built yet. You would have to walk along the
highway.
best wishes,
Jerry Brown
<mailto:bcss at bresnan.net> mailto:bcss at bresnan.net
www.bearcreeksurvey.com
From: Doug Carlson [mailto:doug-sue at centurylink.net]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 8:15 PM
To: bcss at bresnan.net
Cc: Cdt-l at backcountry.net
Subject: RE: [Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water Caches?
So is the new trail between Omega and Pie Town now in place?
I would love to hike it.
following US-60 into AZ it drops south before making its way into Phoenix
and passes through my area about 19 miles north of where I live in Florence.
US-60 is a very scenic route but I am not really interested in walking any
more of it than necessary.
From: bcss at bresnan.net [mailto:bcss at bresnan.net]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 6:22 PM
To: 'Doug Carlson'; Cdt-l at backcountry.net
Subject: RE: [Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water Caches?
One of the big goals of the CDT is to be non-motorized. That is why the new
route was developed ? to put hikers on trail instead of road. Good news is
that the route will eventually include new trail from near Omega connecting
to Pietown, so that town will always be part of the trail. I have done both
the new trail and the road walk and the new trail is definitely nicer. If I
were doing the trail for the first time I think I would hike to Omega then
follow the highway to Pietown. There is new trail planned from Pietown to
the Malpais that will be spectacular.
best wishes,
Jerry Brown
(970) 403-3527 Cell: (970) 749-0496
mailto:bcss at bresnan.net
www.bearcreeksurvey.com
From: Doug Carlson [mailto:doug-sue at centurylink.net]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 5:54 PM
To: Cdt-l at backcountry.net
Cc: bcss at bresnan.net
Subject: RE: [Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water Caches?
Jerry, your reference to the bearcreek maps and waypoints are a big help.
Those waypoints should get me to Silver City with no problem.
>From there I want to go up through the heart of the Gila Wilderness via Doc
Campbells and on to Pie Town. I can't imagine the official route moving
away from Pie Town unless there was a really really good reason. I have
looked forward to carrying a pack into Pie Town and eating pie for a long
time.
I am feeling more confident about this trip all the time.
Side note: with new gear, maps, food, mailing, travel, a long hike isn't
cheap. Can't wait to get going.
-Trew
From: cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:cdt-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
On Behalf Of bcss at bresnan.net
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 1:10 PM
To: Cdt-l at backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [Cdt-l] waypoints Sam Huges water Caches?
Trew,
Free waypoint files for the entire CDT (which include the cache boxes) are
available here: www.bearcreeksurvey.com
Take the Waypoints link on the main page and you will end up on a page where
you can download them. They were all collected with professional grade gps
and are quite accurate. There are 6972 waypoints in all for the entire trail
route, average spacing a little over ? mile. They only apply to the
official USFS/BLM route for the CDNST so for the many possible alternate
hikes such as the Gila River, Winds, or Anaconda cutoff they won?t help, but
most of the time you will likely be on the official route. I think Frank?s
G?s website may have some helpful data for the alternates.
https://www.sites.google.com/site/frankgilliland/cdt
The Mapbooks are spiral bound collections of 1?=3000? scale hiker maps that
show the official route and all of the waypoints with a high level of
accuracy. There is information about them on the front page of the bearcreek
website.
These are the Waypoint names for the Water Boxes between Crazy Cook and
Lordsburg:
01_137WT
01_255WT
02_194WT
03_127WT
04_198WT
There is a considerable amount of water in there in addition to the boxes.
(Farm ponds and watering tanks) Any waypoint that ends in ?WT? is a place
we found water. I would suggest always carrying more than you anticipate
needing in there in case one of them is dry or non functional. If you plan
for 20 miles between water sources you could do the entire thing just using
the cache boxes.
best wishes,
Jerry Brown
mailto:bcss at bresnan.net
www.bearcreeksurvey.com
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